What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. No mention of a double album. No production yet.
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
Hi guys,
I just posted a pretty strong opinion about the "Classic Petra" tour on my blog. I thought it was time since it looks like this is really going to happen. Anyway...it's just my opinion (a long one). Don't get mad at me. Here is the link http://blog.centralcityonline.org/ . Check it out and let me know what you think.
I just posted a pretty strong opinion about the "Classic Petra" tour on my blog. I thought it was time since it looks like this is really going to happen. Anyway...it's just my opinion (a long one). Don't get mad at me. Here is the link http://blog.centralcityonline.org/ . Check it out and let me know what you think.
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I left you a comment for your approval.
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
Believe me...I'm psyched about the tour. It comes at a great time and I do think they have an opportunity to complete some unfinished business. And it will be great for Christian music. I am one of those guys that go back to that era. There was a level of excitement and commitment to the band that is hard to describe. This tour will be great. I just had to air out a few things so I could actually enjoy it. It came out sounding a little more critical than I think I intended.
One specific comment. The version of Petra that was touring at the end was not really Petra. All of us fans knew it, people knew it, and that is why it was not viable. But it was not because of John. The reality is if Bob doesn't retire in 1994/95, and if other band member changes were kept to a minimum/handled differently, the band still keeps it's audience. The constant changing is what made it a joke. They should have done a farewell with the dream team lineup and the whole brand would have been kept valuable.
But my final opinion for Classic Petra is that if you drop John into that lineup and make Greg a "special guest", you have something even more special and more sellable across the board. It could have been "Classic Petra with special guest Greg Volz'. Now there would have been something special.
One specific comment. The version of Petra that was touring at the end was not really Petra. All of us fans knew it, people knew it, and that is why it was not viable. But it was not because of John. The reality is if Bob doesn't retire in 1994/95, and if other band member changes were kept to a minimum/handled differently, the band still keeps it's audience. The constant changing is what made it a joke. They should have done a farewell with the dream team lineup and the whole brand would have been kept valuable.
But my final opinion for Classic Petra is that if you drop John into that lineup and make Greg a "special guest", you have something even more special and more sellable across the board. It could have been "Classic Petra with special guest Greg Volz'. Now there would have been something special.
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
You make some good points, Dave. I have an account there, I'll subscribe to your posts.
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I am not sure if John will join Classic Petra.
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I would not put my money on it. I think that people are missing the point. The point is for THESE players and these players alone to celebrate their mission and their music with Petra. Johns has been celebrated and is still being celebrated. Besides this, if John WANTED to play with this incarnation, all he would have to do is call Louie for their next reunion show instead of using that drummer they are using now.JMBJR72 wrote:I am not sure if John will join Classic Petra.
The impression I get is that Greg is driving the Classic Petra thing, and Bob/John is driving the current Petra thing.
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
Dave, your post is great and I agree with you in many points.
I really like Greg, but when I became a fan of Petra John already was the lead singer.
My favorite song is John who sings.
Greg was very important for the band, no doubt, but Petra has grown in many respects after the entrance of John.
Now, talking about the possibility of a new CD, I can not imagine a new CD in 2010 without John Schlitt on lead vocals!
Just my opinion!
I totally agree!daveferrari wrote: But my final opinion for Classic Petra is that if you drop John into that lineup and make Greg a "special guest", you have something even more special and more sellable across the board. It could have been "Classic Petra with special guest Greg Volz'. Now there would have been something special.
I really like Greg, but when I became a fan of Petra John already was the lead singer.
My favorite song is John who sings.
Greg was very important for the band, no doubt, but Petra has grown in many respects after the entrance of John.
Now, talking about the possibility of a new CD, I can not imagine a new CD in 2010 without John Schlitt on lead vocals!
Just my opinion!
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
Just read your blog Dave.... somehow that's exactly what i think but couldn't put into words! it's the most thought out thing I have read about Petra from a fans perspective, please let us know when your next update is.daveferrari wrote:Believe me...I'm psyched about the tour. It comes at a great time and I do think they have an opportunity to complete some unfinished business. And it will be great for Christian music. I am one of those guys that go back to that era. There was a level of excitement and commitment to the band that is hard to describe. This tour will be great. I just had to air out a few things so I could actually enjoy it. It came out sounding a little more critical than I think I intended.
One specific comment. The version of Petra that was touring at the end was not really Petra. All of us fans knew it, people knew it, and that is why it was not viable. But it was not because of John. The reality is if Bob doesn't retire in 1994/95, and if other band member changes were kept to a minimum/handled differently, the band still keeps it's audience. The constant changing is what made it a joke. They should have done a farewell with the dream team lineup and the whole brand would have been kept valuable.
But my final opinion for Classic Petra is that if you drop John into that lineup and make Greg a "special guest", you have something even more special and more sellable across the board. It could have been "Classic Petra with special guest Greg Volz'. Now there would have been something special.
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Dave, your blog was great - I loved it!! Especially about Judas Kiss - I've always liked it better by John, also It is Finished. That would be perfect if it could be as you said, classic (with John) and special guest Greg. Maybe someday.
Thanks Brent for your explanation that Greg is driving the classic thing, it makes more sense now.
Thanks Brent for your explanation that Greg is driving the classic thing, it makes more sense now.
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
I just read the blog, really all we have is a guy who Loves John and dislikes Greg.
He stated; "Am I supposed to buy something billed as “Classic Petra” that will not include songs like Beyond Belief, He Came He Saw He Conquered, Dance, or No Doubt (Hate the album, love the song)? Those songs are “Classic Petra”. It is an injustice to the legacy of the band to be called “Classic” without those songs."
I disagree, those songs are classic songs, but to me they are not "Classics". Songs like Beat The System, Graverobber, Pied Piper, More Power To Ya, Why Should The Father Bother these are Classic Petra songs.
If you play songs from the Volz era, people remember those songs more than they do the newer stuff.
He also made the statement, "But to call something “Classic Petra” without John Schlitt involved, to me is shameful. And let's face it...I associate John with most of the Volz era songs now anyway"
My question to him is WHY? The only Volz era song that Petra did on a regular basis is Judas Kiss. If you want to talk about IIGuys then yes John did a lot of Volz Era songs.
"I have had dreams of John Schlitt singing Volz era songs." That says it all to me.
I say "Classic Petra with no special guest"
He stated; "Am I supposed to buy something billed as “Classic Petra” that will not include songs like Beyond Belief, He Came He Saw He Conquered, Dance, or No Doubt (Hate the album, love the song)? Those songs are “Classic Petra”. It is an injustice to the legacy of the band to be called “Classic” without those songs."
I disagree, those songs are classic songs, but to me they are not "Classics". Songs like Beat The System, Graverobber, Pied Piper, More Power To Ya, Why Should The Father Bother these are Classic Petra songs.
If you play songs from the Volz era, people remember those songs more than they do the newer stuff.
He also made the statement, "But to call something “Classic Petra” without John Schlitt involved, to me is shameful. And let's face it...I associate John with most of the Volz era songs now anyway"
My question to him is WHY? The only Volz era song that Petra did on a regular basis is Judas Kiss. If you want to talk about IIGuys then yes John did a lot of Volz Era songs.
"I have had dreams of John Schlitt singing Volz era songs." That says it all to me.
I say "Classic Petra with no special guest"
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
One more little thing I would like to point out. The "Classic Petra" lineup 40 shows so far, the "nonFarewell" lineup 5 to 6 shows.
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I think the difference in number of shows is perhaps because people are more involved in publicizing and working in the Classic Tour and not in Farewell lineup.
Maybe if Ferewell lineup had all this effort, new site on the Internet only about the tour, the number could increase significantly.
I am very happy with this classic tour!
But for me Petra Classic should be with John on vocals.
This Classic lineup is perfect, It's really a dream.
But I would replace Greg by John.
Maybe if Ferewell lineup had all this effort, new site on the Internet only about the tour, the number could increase significantly.
I am very happy with this classic tour!
But for me Petra Classic should be with John on vocals.
This Classic lineup is perfect, It's really a dream.
But I would replace Greg by John.
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Re: What if??? - The 2010 Classic Petra reunion 84', 85' lineup
That is totally not the case. I love Greg. Some of my best Petra memories are of him with Petra. I thought the best part of the Farewell taping was Graverobber. You could just feel the energy in the room elevate. I have missed Greg since he left. But for the last 25 years it has been John.shawnpfan2010 wrote:I just read the blog, really all we have is a guy who Loves John and dislikes Greg. He also made the statement, "But to call something “Classic Petra” without John Schlitt involved, to me is shameful. And let's face it...I associate John with most of the Volz era songs now anyway"
My question to him is WHY? The only Volz era song that Petra did on a regular basis is Judas Kiss. If you want to talk about IIGuys then yes John did a lot of Volz Era songs
There were Volz era songs that John did at the beginning of his tenure that I think of as well (Judas Kiss was more a recent thing). I think John owned Second Wind during the Back to the Street and This Means War Tours. Annie during This Means War was amazing! Another highlight for me was Voice in the Wind during God Fixation. John also is did Adonai during Back to the Street which I don't think Greg ever performed live. Adonai was the highlight of BTTS tour for me. Those are just a few.
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Not knocking the classic Petra, I am looking forward to that but just imagine if the dream team Petra did a reunion!
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