"The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by executioner » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:13 am

Tutor_23 wrote:Yes, "Take Me Home" or "Hope that Saves the World" would be great initial impressions of John's record.

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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by executioner » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:51 pm

We are looking at a May release date for TGC correct?
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by reopugh » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:06 pm

executioner wrote:We are looking at a May release date for TGC correct?
I was just told by John, that it is looking like May 8th will be the date.
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by executioner » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:11 pm

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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by sue d. » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:46 pm

Yup, May 8 s the official release date!

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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by rexreed » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:24 pm

I look forward to purchasing the cd. Once question though, in the release why is the word "Hear" capitalized?
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by sue d. » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:47 pm

Cuz that's how Rob's designer made it. Makes it stand out - see, it worked - you questioned it! ;-)
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by brent » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:32 pm

....uh, sooooo....I am placing $15 on May 08th being the day that I can find the album for free on the internet. The biggest mistake anyone can do now is to release CDs, files on the major download sites, or sites that use Flash. The best way to keep the money in the artists pockets is to get the money straight from the customer and then sending the customer a link with a pass.
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by rexreed » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:32 pm

I'm pretty sure that download only sales can be pirated just like a CD.
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by brent » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:30 pm

To date, the only way that the downloaded tracks can be pirated is if the people who have been given a link to download them belong to a torrent or post links themselves. If it happens now, we know if is from the inside so to speak. That is the point. Once they start selling discs and offering downloads, there will be tons of people getting it for free and justifying it.
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by sue d. » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:22 pm

...uh, sooooo....I am placing $15 on May 08th being the day that I can find the album for free on the internet.
Better not find it for free on the net!

No, the statement "Hear & Buy" means you will HEAR JOHN SING IT at Indy. And we'll be playing it during the breaktime sessions, like a listening party.

How does flash make the music downloadable? We don't have flash on jws.com, but I'm curious.
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by executioner » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:43 am

brent wrote:To date, the only way that the downloaded tracks can be pirated is if the people who have been given a link to download them belong to a torrent or post links themselves. If it happens now, we know if is from the inside so to speak. That is the point. Once they start selling discs and offering downloads, there will be tons of people getting it for free and justifying it.
I'm assuming the only way to stop this is to regulate the internet?
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by brent » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:54 am

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...uh, sooooo....I am placing $15 on May 08th being the day that I can find the album for free on the internet.
Better not find it for free on the net!

No, the statement "Hear & Buy" means you will HEAR JOHN SING IT at Indy. And we'll be playing it during the breaktime sessions, like a listening party.

How does flash make the music downloadable? We don't have flash on jws.com, but I'm curious.
Sue, any site that uses Flash can have the content recorded/copied from the Flash player. It's kind of a good thing Flash is dying and going away and more people use and support HTML5.
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by brent » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:57 am

executioner wrote:
brent wrote:To date, the only way that the downloaded tracks can be pirated is if the people who have been given a link to download them belong to a torrent or post links themselves. If it happens now, we know if is from the inside so to speak. That is the point. Once they start selling discs and offering downloads, there will be tons of people getting it for free and justifying it.
I'm assuming the only way to stop this is to regulate the internet?
No, that would be impossible. The way to reduce it, not stop it, is to do what John and others are doing, and selling direct and providing customers a link and a pass code. If any files show up on the net, the artist knows where it came from. It is true that the customers can be joined to a torrent, which automatically copies and shares all of their files. There is nothing the artist can do about that. I cannot believe that people would still be stupid enough to do that.
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Re: "The Greater Cause" - John's New CD

Post by rexreed » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:43 am

All it takes is one person to "share" their downloaded purchased music and it can be made available to everyone. Really no benefit over cd's except for the manufacturing cost.
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