Johns Petra 13 years ago.

[blayze5150]

John was great, and I agree with Brent, but..

Pete Orta... what are you doing?!?!?!? CC Deville played Poison's stuff better drunk and high in the 80s on stage. Is he playing a Telecaster?!?!? For PETRA!!! Wouldn't he be more suited to go with a HSS Strat or a Les Paul? Intersting choice of instument (but his tone isn't bad... it could just be SOOOO much better!).

[fcollazo]

Wait a minute! You probably missed the last leg of the Classic Petra Tour were all Bob played was a Telecaster last year. You obviously don't know a thing about guitars. Nothing wrong with a Tele, just listen to John 5 and see what a Tele can do. Teles have the basic design that made solid body guitars great for high gain rock, it's just that Country Music players favor it more, but it can be very versatile.

[zman7720000]

JOHN forget lyrics? Naw... he does NOT!

The Send Revival clip is definitely NOT a demo; it was from a live concert, as you said, by Lukas Jacobi, the one who had John sing in German on his EP/Enhanced CD-Rom. We have it right here for only $5: http://schlittshop.com/merch/wann-immer ... hn-schlitt It really is a unique CD to own as part of your Petra-related collection.

actually John is notorious for forgetting the words to his music. This is been well documented through the years by none other than CCM magazine!

[blayze5150]

Wait a minute! You probably missed the last leg of the Classic Petra Tour were all Bob played was a Telecaster last year. You obviously don't know a thing about guitars. Nothing wrong with a Tele, just listen to John 5 and see what a Tele can do. Teles have the basic design that made solid body guitars great for high gain rock, it's just that Country Music players favor it more, but it can be very versatile.

I've played since 1988. Since then I habe owned: 4 Ibanez RG's, an Ibanez Paul Gilert, an Ibanez Reb Beach Model (best guitar I ever Played!), 2 Ibanez Joe Satriani Models, 4 BC Rich Warlocks, a BC Rich Gunslinger, 4 Fender Stratocasters, 2 ESPs (models escape me... I was young) and a Les Paul. I know a thing or two about guitars. That being said...
I Never got a tone from a Tele I liked, but because of that, I haven't played one very often. Just not my thing. Might have to try one again... ehhh.... nah, I'm happy with what I play. Prefer a Strat... some hate those on rock. Currently own a Les Paul Nitrous, Mexican Strat that I hooked up with a Jeff Beck Pickguard and an Ibanez RG2XXV (the Edge Zero Tremelo rocks!). Everytime I hear people talk about a Tele, I cringe. Just don't like the darn things... No trem... thin sound (maybe it's me, IDK.I know many great musicians swear by them). I'm also very partial to Ibanez. And yes, I did miss the last leg of that tour, but he's Bob: He makes any guitar sound good!

[executioner]

Wait a minute! You probably missed the last leg of the Classic Petra Tour were all Bob played was a Telecaster last year. You obviously don't know a thing about guitars. Nothing wrong with a Tele, just listen to John 5 and see what a Tele can do. Teles have the basic design that made solid body guitars great for high gain rock, it's just that Country Music players favor it more, but it can be very versatile.

I've played since 1988, so I'll try really hard not to be offended by that. Never got a tone from a Tele I liked, but because of that, I haven't played one very often. Just not my thing. Might have to try one again... ehhh.... nah, I'm happy with what I play. Prefer a Strat... some hate those on rock. Own a Les Paul, Strat and Ibanez RG. Everytime I hear people talk about a Tele, I cringe. Just don't like the darn things... No trem... thin sound. And yes, I did miss the last leg of that tour, but he's Bob: He makes any guitar sound good!

I am not a guitar player, but something caught my eye in your response about the Tele "no trem... thin sound" This is funny because this is what I thought Bob sounded like on BTTR; it was very tinty with no meat behind it and thin with no layers. I think that style of play made the album come off as being bland and too popish. I've actually gone back and started listening to the original songs again and put BTTR off to the side because I just can't get behind the production of BTTR.

[blayze5150]

Wait a minute! You probably missed the last leg of the Classic Petra Tour were all Bob played was a Telecaster last year. You obviously don't know a thing about guitars. Nothing wrong with a Tele, just listen to John 5 and see what a Tele can do. Teles have the basic design that made solid body guitars great for high gain rock, it's just that Country Music players favor it more, but it can be very versatile.

I've played since 1988, so I'll try really hard not to be offended by that. Never got a tone from a Tele I liked, but because of that, I haven't played one very often. Just not my thing. Might have to try one again... ehhh.... nah, I'm happy with what I play. Prefer a Strat... some hate those on rock. Own a Les Paul, Strat and Ibanez RG. Everytime I hear people talk about a Tele, I cringe. Just don't like the darn things... No trem... thin sound. And yes, I did miss the last leg of that tour, but he's Bob: He makes any guitar sound good!

I am not a guitar player, but something caught my eye in your response about the Tele "no trem... thin sound" This is funny because this is what I thought Bob sounded like on BTTR; it was very tinty with no meat behind it and thin with no layers. I think that style of play made the album come off as being bland and too popish. I've actually gone back and started listening to the original songs again and put BTTR off to the side because I just can't get behind the production of BTTR.

BTTR is just too... compressed and digital for my tastes. I like a polished sound... but hate a canned sound. It just didn't have the fire of the originals. I was glad to have it at first... but now, I only have "Too Big to Fail" on my Ipod.

[Mountain Man]

Back to the Rock has a narrow dynamic range, consistent with the "modern" sound that has been popular for the last decade or so. Look at the waveform of an older song and it has peaks and valleys. Look at a newer song and the waveform looks like a solid block across the timeline. Instead of music that moves and breaths, everything just sounds loud anymore.

That said, I do like Back to the Rock quite a lot.