Re: Louie BTTS
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:44 pm
I see nostalgic fans all the time on Facebook who laud Louie's playing ability.
I see nostalgic fans all the time on Facebook who laud Louie's playing ability.
To be fair, his abilities are certainly laudable. Listen to the opening beat of "Let Everything That Hath Breath" on the Back to the Rock live album (the second release; not the first release with live vocals mixed with a pre-recorded track). The dude sounds like a machine.dihigo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:44 pmI see nostalgic fans all the time on Facebook who laud Louie's playing ability.
Brown Bannister go-to guy Chris Mchugh is playing drums on WUC. Compare the sound/technique with "Tales of Wonder" by Whiteheart....Rusty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:04 amI don't mean to come off rude...I HAVE read all the archived stuff...all of it...on the post / thread titled "I know we've been over this before but..." 4/30/04 (check it yourself) Brent said that Louie and John Lawry told him the only record with NO real drums at all was PPTRCO, that John L. did it all himself with sequencers. The other E. Bros. recordings were sequenced with Louie doing some over-dubs only (most likely cymbals )....however, other posts indicate they may have been using a primitive "80's version" of what is now called "Hit replacement technology"...with Louie's playing being sequenced over.
It's all very confusing....I tend to take Brent's word, since he says explicitly that he got it straight from Louie and John Lawry....
My original question was curiosity that they may not have fully started the whole "Lets sequence the drums " thing on BTTS yet. Compare the drum "sound" on BTTS with TMW and the difference is very obvious.
peace brothers and sisters...peace...
First off there is nothing in the credits of Wake Up Call showing McHugh played on the album; Wake Up Call is thru & thru Louie and no one else; second I have first hand knowledge of some of the things you continue to talk about and claim about Louie in the studio and in most(not all) cases you are not right. Not trying to cause any trouble just setting the record straight.Rusty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:29 amBrown Bannister go-to guy Chris Mchugh is playing drums on WUC. Compare the sound/technique with "Tales of Wonder" by Whiteheart....Rusty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:04 amI don't mean to come off rude...I HAVE read all the archived stuff...all of it...on the post / thread titled "I know we've been over this before but..." 4/30/04 (check it yourself) Brent said that Louie and John Lawry told him the only record with NO real drums at all was PPTRCO, that John L. did it all himself with sequencers. The other E. Bros. recordings were sequenced with Louie doing some over-dubs only (most likely cymbals )....however, other posts indicate they may have been using a primitive "80's version" of what is now called "Hit replacement technology"...with Louie's playing being sequenced over.
It's all very confusing....I tend to take Brent's word, since he says explicitly that he got it straight from Louie and John Lawry....
My original question was curiosity that they may not have fully started the whole "Lets sequence the drums " thing on BTTS yet. Compare the drum "sound" on BTTS with TMW and the difference is very obvious.
peace brothers and sisters...peace...
Sorry but I have first hand knowledge of the recording sessions with the band(just talked to someone that was there throughout the recording) and especially with the WUC sessions and McHugh played a very small role in the making of WUC on the percussion side of the sound and was actually in the studio for one day for about 90 minutes at the most and the only reason why is was there was because he and Gordon Kennedy just so happened to show up for moral support and McHugh goof around with Louie a little with the percussion and that was the jest of it. Kennedy ended up playing a small part in the songs "Strong Convictions" & "He's Been In My Shoes". Kennedy ended up being there for a few days but McHugh was only there for the one day for about 90 minutes and really wasn't even there for any type of recording, so its somewhat surprising he is listed as additional contributions. Believe me when I tell you WUC is ALL LOUIE!!Rusty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:35 amHi,
If you look at the liner notes on WUC, Chris's name is first under "additional contributions".....
I know Louie's style, and I know Chris's style. I know how Louie's drums sound, and I know how Chris's drums sound. Chris has made a big name for himself as a studio player by having a consistent style and sound. Its called "brand recognition" in marketing. As a drummer, I recognized Chris immediately when I recently listened to WUC for the first time in 20 plus years (its not one of my favorites).
Any drummer who knows both players can pick it out pretty quick...just sayin'.....
peace
Technically, that's secondhand knowledge. First-hand knowledge would mean you were in the recording studio yourself.executioner wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:14 pmI have first hand knowledge of the recording sessions with the band (just talked to someone that was there throughout the recording)...
You have many stories about having first hand knowledge, much of it is contradictory to the facts. That isn't Louie playing on WUC.executioner wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:14 pmSorry but I have first hand knowledge of the recording sessions with the band(just talked to someone that was there throughout the recording) and especially with the WUC sessions and McHugh played a very small role in the making of WUC on the percussion side of the sound and was actually in the studio for one day for about 90 minutes at the most and the only reason why is was there was because he and Gordon Kennedy just so happened to show up for moral support and McHugh goof around with Louie a little with the percussion and that was the jest of it. Kennedy ended up playing a small part in the songs "Strong Convictions" & "He's Been In My Shoes". Kennedy ended up being there for a few days but McHugh was only there for the one day for about 90 minutes and really wasn't even there for any type of recording, so its somewhat surprising he is listed as additional contributions. Believe me when I tell you WUC is ALL LOUIE!!
Ditto! WUC has Louie all over it. The same aspect though is no one can truly know how Louie can or would sound in studio because of the limited sample size.gman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:03 amFWIW, I went and sought out a live clip of Praying Man. Louie was fantastic. He played much more than what's on the album, but he played a lot of the same stuff. I'm confident in saying, at least for that song, Louie played on the album. Both versions have the same Louie swagger to them.