Petra/Kansas Connections

Michael · Post by **Michael** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:29 pm

I've got my list of connections between Kansas and Petra ready to go. It's not linked from anywhere else on the site yet... gotta figure out where would be a logical place. Hmm.

Anyway, stop by and see what you think.

charl · Post by **charl** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:56 pm

The only problem I see is that Petra did not record one cover song, since the one you have listed is not God Gave Rock and Roll to You.

separateunion · Post by **separateunion** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:42 pm

Nice catch. Was "God Gae Rock and Roll to You" an exact cover, or were some of the lyrics changed like KISS did?

charl · Post by **charl** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:45 pm

Yes lyrics were changed. Does this exempt it from still being a cover?

WR1U · Post by **WR1U** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:03 am

not a cover but a reimaging.

BriGuyPEI · Post by **BriGuyPEI** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:13 am

You could do one of those with Petra vs. Audio Adrenaline

P: self-titled debut
AA: self-titled debut

P: principle songwriter Bob Hartman
AA: principle songwriter Bob Herdman

P: recorded live album in 1985
AA: recorded live album in 1995

P: Bob stepped aside from touring but remained active with band
AA: Bob stepped aside from touring but remained active with band

P: "Farewell" tour in 2005
AA: "Adios" tour in 2006

P: "Farewell" CD/DVD
AA: "The Farewell Concert" CD/DVD

brent · Post by **brent** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:31 am

charl wrote:Yes lyrics were changed. Does this exempt it from still being a cover?

Petra changed lyrics, Kiss changed lyrics too. Technically, legally, this is a closer to a cover than a parody, because the majority of the tune remained the same.

charl · Post by **charl** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:24 pm

Hereis Argent playing God Gave Rock and Roll for anyone that's never heard it.

The Come and Join Us version remains le mieux.

p-freak · Post by **p-freak** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:14 pm

The Come and Join Us version remains le mieux.

Definitely!

Schlittism33 · Post by **Schlittism33** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:37 pm

Argent featured Russ Ballard - who wrote the song "God Gave Rock n' Roll to You" performed by Petra ... he also wrote the song "Since You've Been Gone" performed by Head East

Thats so crazy! lol

Michael · Post by **Michael** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm

charl wrote:The only problem I see is that Petra did not record one cover song, since the one you have listed is not God Gave Rock and Roll to You.

That's a good catch! I suppose GGR&RTY could be considered a "rewrite" although you guys are right... closer to a cover than a parody, for sure. I don't have the time at the moment, but when I get a chance I'll notate that one. Since it's not an exact cover, though, I'll stick by my guns. HA!!

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:27 am

I think you should mention Dino Elefante as well.

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:35 am

And how about the Petra Praise records... Isn't that covers???

Michael · Post by **Michael** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:23 pm

Boray wrote: I think you should mention Dino Elefante as well.

I don't think Dino was involved with Kansas. John was the lead singer for several years.

Boray wrote:And how about the Petra Praise records... Isn't that covers???

Those are, to me, kind of a different animal, and I don't know if I would put Matt Redman or whoever on a par with Keith Green and the Beatles. Come to think of it, I don't know if I would put Argent up their either, since it seems like they're fairly obscure now for a band that in their prime were so well-known (sort of like Head East!)

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:36 am

Michael wrote:I don't think Dino was involved with Kansas. John was the lead singer for several years.

As a songwriter. On most of the Kansas Elefante songs, it says "by John Elefante and Dino Elefante".

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