Any Hills Alive Show Report?

[gman]

There seems to be a radio disconnect in our area. The one station has been around forever, and the parent company used to own half of the big dog of Christian festivals. What they play now was relevant to the festival, maybe ten years ago. You go to the festival and listen to the festival radio, run by many of the same people, they are playing the same stuff; Chris Rice and Mark Schultz, when the festival is featuring Switchfoot, Toby Mac, and Skillet. The other station in our area is a little more dialed in to what is going on, but even they get it wrong. When they play an older artist like Jars of Clay, it's always Love Song for a Savior. I've never heard any other Jars song. If they play a Michael W. song, it's like he is their token inspirational artist and they have to play something old and slow.

Stryper was scheduled to play the festival a few times, and they had to bail because the money being paid wasn't enough to cover the cost of getting there; not to mention the time off from work.
It's a tough economy out there. The festival has made it clear the last few years that not all of the offering they take will go to missions. Some of it will go back into the festival. I'm sure their cost has skyrocketed, but they've done their best to keep the ticket price down.

[petrafreak2009]

We don't play the same 5 songs at the Z! :0). Thought I'd throw that in there lol

[rexreed]

There have been a few good points made in this thread about what has helped lead to the demise of ccm. Lets not forget how many people are stealing from their favorite artists. For some strange reason there is an entire generation that believes it is perfectly fine to dl an entire album and pay nothing for it, or they will distribute an album they paid for to virtually thousands of strangers. At first it mau have seemed like no big deal, but factor in a weak economy, poor album sales, low radio and television ratings and kablow!- no one shows up at live shows anymore.

Sometimes it costs a lot to be cheap.

[brent]

puh-reach-it brotha'....guh-looooooory!

This is what I have heard, even here, and it is just toooo rich:

"It's ok to steal music. It's too expensive and we don't have money in my country."
"The music is out of print. Since it's not available, I should be able to have a copy of it."
"I bought the CD once. Since I paid for it once, I should get it for free."
"Musicians are rich. They will not miss a few dollars."
"Labels are greedy and rich." (Yeah, that is why they are all near bankruptcy)."

It doesn't matter. Circumstances do not dictate right and wrong. The Truth dictates right and wrong. Stealing music is hurting everyone. If everyone stole food from the farmers, the farmers wouldn't keep mortgaging their farms to plant and reap new crops. Why should musicians be forced to do it?

Oh, what about those people expecting to be blessed by something they stole. That takes a really, REALLY stupid person with absolutely no common sense to come up with that.

[gman]

I will listen to some stuff online, but any Christian music in my possession was definitely paid for, through CD or ITunes. Most of the secular stuff I own, which isn't much, was paid for as well, provided it is reasonably clean. The Bon Jovi CDs were ebay resale. Some stuff I just listen to at playlist.com. I prefer not to give money to secular music, which is why I don't have much. The one thing I do have is a mess of Buble tunes that I got mp3s of through playlist.com. Otherwise, I'm with Brent. Everything should be paid for.
Go to a festival or concert and buy CDs from the merch tables. The artist will make out better that way. I noticed at Creation that a lot of the artists were selling their CDs for 10 bucks and less.

GMan

[sue d.]

Got a few more photos up.... ONE of Bob!

[imc]

Although I don't condone or partake in the piracy of music - I believe the music/entertainment industry are far more responsible for their own downfall than the pirates. Why weren't they being the pioneers of digitally distributed music in the 90s instead of the pirates and hackers? Why did it take them nearly a decade to realise that the convenience of downloaded music meant many would prefer to have their music that way even if that meant compressed audio and no physical product? When they eventually started selling music in this way, why did it cost almost as much as the physical product, or in some cases more? There are zero manufacturing costs to a digital album, and minuscule distribution costs compared to a CD, these savings should be passed onto the consumer, especially when you consider that unlike a CD a digital album has zero resale value.

For the first 10 years of digitally distributed music being a reality, there were no legitimate sources of music downloads. The music industry may have been able to harness many of these potential consumers before illegal downloading became the norm. But they didn't, and they will probably never get them back now. The pirates, people like Shawn Fanning of Napster were pioneers of music distribution. The music industry shouldn't have sued them and fought them, they should have employed them! Instead they had their head in the sand for far too long, and in doing so signed their own death warrant.

[brent]

You want to know why? The music industry execs attended a summit addressing data delivery. Bill Gates told the industry leaders that MicroSoft was not seeing the internet as a valid delivery method. The optical disc and then a next gen optical disc would be the standard for the decade. Then what happened? It was too late to change once MS changed their minds. No look at MS. It is hurting. They have had massive lay-offs. Their future is not as sure as it was. Their business model has failed too.

[imc]

Interesting, but not surprising. MS have suffered just as much as the entertainment industry from having their head in the sand with regards to the internet.

[pmal]

You want to know why? The music industry execs attended a summit addressing data delivery. Bill Gates told the industry leaders that MicroSoft was not seeing the internet as a valid delivery method. The optical disc and then a next gen optical disc would be the standard for the decade. Then what happened? It was too late to change once MS changed their minds. No look at MS. It is hurting. They have had massive lay-offs. Their future is not as sure as it was. Their business model has failed too.

Yeah, but that was also when no one had broadband, and even those that did have it were paying a bundle for it. Now, everybody in a city or near a city has it because of cable/dsl/cell phones. However, there are still 14-24 million who don't have it today, according to a statistic released the other day by the FCC, in the USA. We forget sometimes how much progress has taken place in that area in just the last 5 years. The reason people steal/stole music, imo, is the same reason that dogs lick themselves: they can. In this country, people justify the killing of babies every day. They can rationalize anything. Do you people really think that with that going on that they would suddenly take the moral high ground on music?

[brent]

Actually, there was a business model that several companies bought into, before everyone had broadband. Not having broadband did not restrict theft though. There was a move to install kiosks in Blockbuster Video, FYE (or whatever they were called back then)....heck all of the mom and pop record shops, creating a mainline to the record labels themselves, allowing people to select a playlist, just like a jukebox, and then walk out with a high quality burned disc. There were some tests in large markets and the people, the masses, said no. It took too long. They thought it was a fad. The CD was forever. There were more ideas than this. The press likes to bash the labels for not doing anything. They were doing something. People didn't like what the labels were offering. If the people DID like it, they would have offered it. Cause they be all 'bout duh green baby....yeeeeeah.

It's a good thing people cannot lick themselves. Well, actually, I am sure there IS a video of that on YouTube somewhere.

[CatNamedManny]

You want to know why? The music industry execs attended a summit addressing data delivery. Bill Gates told the industry leaders that MicroSoft was not seeing the internet as a valid delivery method. The optical disc and then a next gen optical disc would be the standard for the decade. Then what happened? It was too late to change once MS changed their minds. No look at MS. It is hurting. They have had massive lay-offs. Their future is not as sure as it was. Their business model has failed too.

They were asking the wrong computer genius. No surprise that Apple is now America's richest computer company; Steve Jobs was light years ahead of Gates on how entertainment could be delivered electronically.

[brent]

I agree completely.

[Dan]

This is why I use Linux.

[rexreed]

Blaming a record label or music store for stealing sounds a little like blaming rape victims for the crime. Sure there might be a couple things that could have gone differently, but ultimately someone decides to do the crime.