Back To The Rock, cool.

[rexreed]

Simply, Back to the Rock is the weakest song of the Album...

Hmm. Clean fits that bill for me.

[Preacherman777]

For me, given the fact that I liked the original version of the song and given the fact that I like this one even better cuz it rocks more, I have no complaints. Well, I would have preferred a song that was 100% new, but that's beside the point.

[bakersfieldpethead]

So if there is another album, what do you guys think, will they do another song from Greg's past solo albums? Or will he sit down and pen out a new song?

[SCJ-7]

bakersfieldpethead wrote:
So if there is another album, what do you guys think, will they do another song from Greg's past solo albums? Or will he sit down and pen out a new song?

No!...
Please... Only Bob Hartman songs... Please!

[executioner]

bakersfieldpethead wrote:
So if there is another album, what do you guys think, will they do another song from Greg's past solo albums? Or will he sit down and pen out a new song?

No!...
Please... Only Bob Hartman songs... Please!

Yeah I'm thinking the same thing

[Preacherman777]

My gut tells me that all the albums with 10 remakes and two new will follow the same pattern. One from Bob and one from Greg. In fact, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that was agreed upon in advance.

[bakersfieldpethead]

Well I think that's what Mark told somebody at the TBN concert, that it would be the same thing

[CatNamedManny]

bakersfieldpethead wrote:
So if there is another album, what do you guys think, will they do another song from Greg's past solo albums? Or will he sit down and pen out a new song?

No!...
Please... Only Bob Hartman songs... Please!

You mean, like "The Coloring Song" or "Praise Ye the Lord"? Bob's obviously the band's best songwriter, but Greg's written some great tunes, and the only problem I have with the title track is that it doesn't rock hard enough. The words and tune are fine.

In fact, both new songs to me are the weakest of the non-ballads on this album. They both sounded much better/heavier in concert.

[Mountain Man]

Well I for one think the Beatles are so overated. Like the song BTTR their lyrics and music are just elementary.

You're wrong about the musicianship of the Beatles. A lot of their music is actually quite complex. They just made it look and sound easy.

[bakersfieldpethead]

Well I for one think the Beatles are so overated. Like the song BTTR their lyrics and music are just elementary.

You're wrong about the musicianship of the Beatles. A lot of their music is actually quite complex. They just made it look and sound easy.

The Beatles early stuff were very basic, not much to it at all, you can hear George Martin talking about that. But later on they started getting more complex, they started putting together their music as if it was a classical piece. But, I do think they are overated, they are just 4 people just like us who had some good ideas. They took the first step to open a door to a world of new music, but other bands during the same time were opening up some doors of their own. Brian Wilson was far ahead of John and Paul. Petsounds was the album that inspired Sgt Pepper. Beach Boys had some of the best music and vocal harmony of that time period; that is something The Beatles didn't have.

[fcollazo]

I do not think Pet Sounds acomplished much, or has any memorable moments. sgt pepper was groundbreaking. The Beatles developed and advanced the art form of creating music. Most of their contemporaries improved the actual musicianship of their individual instruments, as well as the live performance act. Also the Beatles wrote songs for them, or they would cover Beatles songs.

[rexreed]

Gee i like the Beatles and the Beach Boys. Neither are overrated imo. I hate hearing people compare the two in an attempt to name one superior over the other. Kind of like how I like dogs and cats, chocolate and vanilla and John and Greg.

[bakersfieldpethead]

Gee i like the Beatles and the Beach Boys. Neither are overrated imo. I hate hearing people compare the two in an attempt to name one superior over the other. Kind of like how I like dogs and cats, chocolate and vanilla and John and Greg.

Sorry rex, the whole "Can we just all say their good and leave it" attitude never gets much leeway in the real world. People like one artist over the other, and sorry to let you know, but “this boy” thinks The Beatles, The Beach Boys as well as U2 are all over rated.

I do not think Pet Sounds acomplished much, or has any memorable moments. sgt pepper was groundbreaking. The Beatles developed and advanced the art form of creating music. Most of their contemporaries improved the actual musicianship of their individual instruments, as well as the live performance act. Also the Beatles wrote songs for them, or they would cover Beatles songs.

I grew up as a musician playing drums since I was 4 years old and singing since I was old enough to form words. As I got older I always felt like I had to dumb it down if I wanted to do anything like The Beatles. They were once my heroes as was The Beach Boys so I know your argument very well because I used to have the same opinion. However, after getting into classical, jazz and a lot more into Christian Music, I come to understand that there were complex styles of music long before John, Paul and Brian were ever born. And to be honest, after getting more into drumming in my teenage years, simply what Ringo had to do track by track on those progressive years, I could do all live with no need for any help.

The only thing that the Fab Four did was show us a way to get to that other area of production and not to be afraid to explore any possibilities in the studio. Also Brian Wilson did pioneer the way with Pet Sounds, he incorporated a full orchestra and studio band and produced the album himself. He brought in some very complex songs that were not the standard for that time, which is why Capitol Records didn't like the album very well, they were not fully behind it. Also Paul McCartney has said often times that he was inspired by the Pet Sounds album and that it gave him the idea for Sgt Pepper.

When The Beatles recorded “Back in the USSR”, in the bridge they tossed a tribute to the Beach Boys.
The only album I remember The Beach Boys recording a Beatles song was on "The Party Album" which was another concept album from Brian, they even re-recorded one of their own songs on it, that's the album that featured the hit "Barbara Ann".

If you really want to know, The Beatles recorded songs from other artists on their first few albums including,

"Twist and Shout" which was recorded in the 50s by “The Top Notes” and then covered by The Isley Brothers,

“Mr. Post man” first recorded by "The Marvels” on Motown in 1961

“Act Naturally” was first recorded by Buck Owens and it is no secret The Beatles were big fans of Buck and drew inspiration of their early sound from the famous Bakersfield Sound in Country Music. Very well documented in several biographies. Plus I know a lot since I’ve been around the Buckaroos since I was 3 or 4 years old and have known several stars from the early Bakersfield Sound years in the 50s and 60s.

[rexreed]

The funny thing about music is that it doesn't have to be technically challenging to be good, so criticisms of the Beatles as musicians tend to overlook how those four could craft some great tunes. I'm no fool, I know that for every "Let it be" there is a "With you Without You." For a couple of overrated bands the Beach Boys and the Beatles sure did leave a mark. I can't say the same for U2. And in the real world you can like both. There is no sense in drawing a line in the sand and duking it out when they were both really good.

[executioner]

Too me the Beatles were just simple musicians. In later years they got a little complex, but most new, young musicians that are just starting out in music can play most Beatles songs. I think that has alot to do why they are so popular. Something that is missing from the Beatles is there is no heart or soul to their vibe; music is said to move and stir up the soul, and I just don't feel it.