Anybody have details on Bob Hartmans guitar rig

[brent]

Peavey has MediaMatrix, the largest, most accepted network audio and distributed audio system in the world. The US government has it in the White House, Congress uses it, theme parks, mega churches, malls, etc, etc. It is THE Standard. They own Crest which makes some decent stuff.

Peavey, like JBL, QSC, Mackie, etc are building products for specific markets that people will buy. That is very different than asking do they build quality products. For ME, I am most concerned about sound quality and longevity. The MI world is not. The MI world is about marketing and selling junk that on average will last about three years because the average customer does not use their purchased item more than one year. This is who Guitar Center sells to and 90% of the industry is doing what GC needs. It is unfortunate.

Peavey has and can build some really good stuff, but you have likely not ever seen it and never will, because it was stuff that was too good for their market so they scrapped it. For instance, they built one of the most high performance 8" drivers on the planet for high end live sound systems, but it was too good for their market and they could not recoup the R&D, so they did not release it. Back in the day they were making great, reliable amp circuits based on the same one developed at Bell Labs (which everybody else was using I might add), but they can't sell those anymore because the market will not pay for it. Power is a commodity now. Everyone is doing high speed switching amps and they are terrible sounding compared to Class A, Class A/B.

There is too much marketing going on and it is all about high power systems, etc. Most people will not learn Ohms Law, will not take the time to learn just how much power they are getting at their 15A receptical, and understand that they will only be getting what the code allows (85% of 15A) and that the circuit breaker pops at 15A, and that there is no way to get more power out of the receptical than what is provided. Therefore, you cannot get 2,000W out of a 15A circuit, and the 2,000W rating on the amp is a lie, or misleading at best. But the public is ignorant and the companies are not educating because it is hard to stay in business when people are informed and demand better, not more, for the same money.

On the flip side, why should the companies build great stuff? Companies like Behringer will just steal the technology and bastardize it. In some ways it backfires. Peavey and Crown make revisions to amps based on information that they have learned in the field and Behringer does not. Peavey and Crown amps progress in the production cycle and Behringers continue to fail.

[Dan]

Just wondering if anyone here knows what kind of amps and effects Bob used for the BTTR album and/or on tour?

did the question change? or was I replying to the wrong thread?

[Muleya]

Just wondering if anyone here knows what kind of amps and effects Bob used for the BTTR album and/or on tour?

did the question change? or was I replying to the wrong thread?

Well, the original questions seems to have been answered. But since then, it seems to have turned into a Peavey vs. Bugera thread...and my posts are obviously just getting in the way, so I think I'm signing off on this one...