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According to this, perhaps Bob can reclaim all the rights to his early music beginning in the first of 2013. This would mean that anything older/out of print could perhaps be released again by the artist at a later date with full royalties going to the author and/or existing published songs by the labels would go to the artist as well? Interesting.

--Phillip

I don't see how Bob would benefit from the old stuff. It is not selling now. What would really benefit Bob, Greg and the boys is purchasing their NEW music. What would benefit John is buying his NEW music.

If you notice, all of the artists petitioning for their rights are not selling much now, releasing little worth buying. They have to rely on the past to make money, playing concerts. The money is not in recorded music. Those days are over. Selling CDs is over. MP3s, ie Apple, is how you sell music. iTunes sells more music than all others combined. Walmart just gave up. Best Buy cannot compete either. The age of the album is over....for now. Put out singles as advertisement for shows. That is the norm now.....unless you are on the charts with a big money machine backer.

There are some artists that would be foolish to take total control of their music, because their labels are multifaceted and interconnected with motion pictures, gaming, etc. They could not do on their own what the current machine is doing to place their product and sell it. The Steve Perry/Journey catalog is a great example. Musicians are terrible businessmen usually, and they are foolish to invest their own money in themselves IMNSHO.

Itunes isn't making artist much money.
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that's an interesting idea! Hmmmm.... I'm guessing the artists needs some type of webcam. I didn't see any cost listed (for the artist).

Sue, I can't be sure but I seem to think that a large portion goes to the artist with a small percentage going to the website. It was pretty neat listening to the artist interacting with the fans. I like the "tip" feature.

I saw where Journey's Don't Stop Believin' has netted the band about $30m in revenue in the last three years alone, because of renewed interest in the song coming from the Soprano's Finale and Glee. Neal Schon said Journey has sold more CD's in the last decade than all other decades combined. It is also the #1 hit all time on the download market.

Journey's "Don't Stop Believin" is a horrible example to illustrate the money made with online downloads. First, it is possibly the best selling song on itunes, so basicly it is the exception, not the rule. If Neal Schon said they sell more records now than in other decades combined, that is probably a tall tale. Her's why I think this: the Escape and Frontiers albums were the best sellers of all time, both products of the 80's. Infinity and Raised on Radio were pretty strong sellers too- from the 70's and 80's. Now, another album often overlooked is the greatest hits album, which for years was a top seller for Sony. Sometime around 2004 I remember reading that JRNY had sold in the area of 90 million albums. 2004 was before the White Sox World Series win, the Sopranos finale, and before Glee or School of Rock. For Journey to sell more albums since 2004 than other decades combines would put them in the area of another 90 million albums sold soince 2004. Not likely, especially since the labels have evaporated sales from ten years ago. It may be possible that Schon was talking about the 70's and 90's combined. That is a possibility. Anyway- this is just a rambling rant to say that DSB is an enigma when it comes to making money on downloads. You know who is making money? Apple.

John Schlitt on a "Stage It" type concert would be really cool. I see if the founder can tell me what equip. is required.

rexreed wrote:Itunes isn't making artist much money.
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No, iTunes is not a great return. It's costs are too high, and the fact that the artist still has to drive people to their page on the iTunes store site means that it is no better than indieheaven for Christian musicians. ITunes pimps what their little group of hipsters wants to pimp and that is it. The age old problem exists for everyone...exposure to the people who might like the music.

I did not say that iTunes pays the most to the artist. I said that iTunes sells the most music period. Those are two very different things. ITunes is not as good as a label from the old days. ITunes makes everyone an indie. There is no support. There is no marketing. There is no image/fashion consulting. There is no management. There is only a store. The artist is still on the hook for everything else.

This is cool, hopefully we will see some old masters re-recorded! will be interesting to see how much the cost is for the rights.