Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

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Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by sue d. » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:39 pm

I know this is really subjective and hard to pinpoint, but does anyone have any stats on:

Petra & John:
Sales figures (total albums sold)
#1 hits (on any charts at any time)

Looking for info for PR purposes... if you find anything to back up any numbers - do let me know!
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by brent » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:28 pm

Hard to believe he doesn't have that, so he can be calling crooked record label people to say, "Show me duh money!"

Here is a good article with some numbers.

https://bonavox.nl/2015/06/who-is-petra/

I like this part: "The Double Take album was largely rejected by critics and fans alike, and it sold fewer than 40,000 copies." Bwuhahahaha. I HATE that album. The fact it won a Grammy means NOTHING, because Grammy's are bartered, bought and sold, and 99.9% of the voters are secular who just rubber stamp things based upon name recognition. Even the secular people knew Petra rocked. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by Mountain Man » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:33 am

And I think that "Double Take" is Petra's most underrated album, one of the best acoustic cover albums ever made, and fully deserved a Grammy. It's a shame that it sold so few copies.
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by p-freak » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:18 pm

The article seems to only take information from publicly available sources.

What about this?

https://www.billboard.com/biz/search/ch ... tist=petra
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by brent » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:54 pm

Billboard only tracks chart positions, not sales. The only way to get real numbers is for someone with copies of old Neilson Soundscan archives to provide sales info. This will still be a partial reporting, because labels didn't always pay for reporting. We know for a fact sales were not tracked, and data was lost as labels were shuttered. I have always been amazed by the lack of a REAL and THOROUGH band owned website, documentation of albums and concerts, and accountability of sales. Bob's works could have found new life and reached a new audience. Petra could have been a pioneer in social media ministry.

You could contact the E brothers to see if they have the data. They were likely paid points and would have had sales audits performed by their attorneys. Heck, call Bob. He of all people should have some concrete numbers. He owns the publishing, sees the audits, and cashes royalty checks.
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by brent » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:02 pm

Sue,

I reached out to some of the former Word guys to see if they still have access to the data.
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by sue d. » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:48 pm

Thanks, Brent! Let me know if they answer...
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by brent » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:28 am

Heard from one of the guys who used to be the international sales dude for Word. He said, "Don't have it."
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by lucasmcgraw » Wed May 30, 2018 2:08 pm

There are people on the Facebook group "Jesus Music 1969-1989" That post charts all the time. They are mostly radio people who have access to the ccm update trade magazines. You could check with one of those guys.
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by jericho29 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:12 pm

Here is Petra's Adult Contemporary CCM Chart history.
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Post by p-freak » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:02 am

That is brilliant!

Do you have access to the rock charts as well? I notice that virtually all rock singles (Beat The System, This Means War!) are missing.
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Re: Info Wanted: Charts, Sales, etc.

Post by jericho29 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:32 am

I do have rock chart info but its not in a published format so I'll work on that later, but here is the CCM CHR chart info. For those not familiar, CHR chart is hotter than AC, comparable to top 40 format in mainstream. Way FM for example was (at least through the 90's) a leader in the CHR format.
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