Remastered albums

[Dan]

I ripped all my CDs in 2002, probably should do them again.

[Progfan]

I can't say I've ever noticed any clipped audio for all the years I've been listening to the CD version of On Fire!.

I guess it’s only an issue if you’re ripping the CD, not when you’re just listening straight through.

Suppose it depends on how you rip it. I use lossless FLAC these days which plays back gapless by default. If you're ripping to MP3 without the "gapless" flag enabled, then you would be more likely to hear when tracks aren't divided perfectly.

Gapless vs not isn’t the issue. The problem is there with all ripping methods once you listen to the tracks individually/shuffled. Only some audio editing will fix it.

[Mountain Man]

I can't say I've ever noticed any clipped audio for all the years I've been listening to the CD version of On Fire!.

I guess it’s only an issue if you’re ripping the CD, not when you’re just listening straight through.

Suppose it depends on how you rip it. I use lossless FLAC these days which plays back gapless by default. If you're ripping to MP3 without the "gapless" flag enabled, then you would be more likely to hear when tracks aren't divided perfectly.

Gapless vs not isn’t the issue. The problem is there with all ripping methods once you listen to the tracks individually/shuffled. Only some audio editing will fix it.

My preference is to cue up the first track of an album and listen straight through to the end, so I would never notice something like that.

[ajc_131]

My peronal remasters of the first two albums and CITAS, (from cassette), have been done with the same software and sound pretty darn good too.

Is this still available from some where? I'd love to get a good, clean version of the cassette cut of this concert. I have the CD and DVD version but no longer have the cassette available.

Yes, I'm a bit late to the party... but does anyone have copies of these that would still be available, somewhere? These remasters sound like they would be fantastic, and better than those Girder remasters. I've got a lot of old Petra stored away on original vinyl, but lately without a good player setup so just listening via spotify. Would love to hear what stateofminduk originally created!

[M.Adiel]

I’d love a link as well (including the 2 tracks from Washes Whiter Than), if you don’t mind.
if it is still possible to share, I have an account on "we transfer", thank you and God bless

[Mountain Man]

AI "demixing" is becoming more accessible all the time. For instance, there's the website moises.ai where you can upload any music file you want, and AI algorithms will separate vocals and instruments into separate tracks. The results aren't perfect, certainly not as clean as the work Abby Road can do, but still pretty darn good for consumer use. I use it to remove the drum track from songs so I have something to play along with.

So the technology exists for someone to take the Petra albums, demix them, and then create brand new mixes from the ground up. The only question is whether or not there's the money to do it, and if there's an experienced mixing and mastering engineer willing to do a proper job of it. What do you say, Brent?

[brenthandy]

I think whoever owns the production masters at this point will be looking to remix and modernize all of their assets. The technology isn't there quite yet, but it is coming soon. Maybe I will get my dream album, GXV singing Back To The Street. Ha.

Have any of you guys watched the videos about how they created a new Randy Travis album? He can't sing because of his strokes. So, his long-time producer/engineer sampled every syllable he ever sang, built a database and then imprinted it all over a donor vocalist with a similar delivery. It sounds like Randy recorded it. It's spooky.

According to Alex Van Halen, he tried using his labels AI tool to assemble new music out of Ed's bits and pieces, but it didn't work.

[Mountain Man]

Using AI to "demix" a song so it can be remixed is one thing, but using it to create an artificial minickry of a human performance, I don't like that at all. Autotune, pitch correction, and quantizing are bad enough.

[dihigo]

I think whoever owns the production masters at this point will be looking to remix and modernize all of their assets. The technology isn't there quite yet, but it is coming soon. Maybe I will get my dream album, GXV singing Back To The Street. Ha.

Have any of you guys watched the videos about how they created a new Randy Travis album? He can't sing because of his strokes. So, his long-time producer/engineer sampled every syllable he ever sang, built a database and then imprinted it all over a donor vocalist with a similar delivery. It sounds like Randy recorded it. It's spooky.

According to Alex Van Halen, he tried using his labels AI tool to assemble new music out of Ed's bits and pieces, but it didn't work.

I've heard AI Randy Travis, and it is spooky. Eddie Van Halen's talent was unmatched, even by AI.

[Dan]

I would be up for some AI GXV doing BTTS.

Welcome back Brent. We missed you.

[uho]

here a list what I have from Petra (ore Petra related)

Petra - 1974 Petra (als 2011 CD release)
Petra - 1977 Come And Join Us (als 2011 CD release)
Petra - 1979 Washes Whiter Than
Petra - 1979 Washes Whiter Than & 1981 Never Say Die - flac
Petra - 1980 Jekyll & Hyde (2003 CD)
Petra - 1980 Jekyll & Hyde (En Espanol) 2003 CD - flac
Petra - 1981 Never Say Die - wav
Petra - 1982 More Power To Ya (2012 CD)
Petra - 1983 Not of This World - wav
Petra - 1984 Beat The System
Petra - 1986 Back To The Street
Petra - 1986 Captured In Time & Space - wav
Petra - 1987 This Means War! (25th Anniversary)
Petra - 1988 On Fire!
Petra - 1989 Petra Means Rock (Compilation) (1992 ReRelease)
Petra - 1989 Petra Praise (Rock Cries Out) - 1992 CD
Petra - 1990 Beyond Belief
Petra - 1990 War & Remembrance (Compilation) - wav
Petra - 1991 Petrafied (The Best Of Petra)
Petra - 1991 Unseen Power
Petra - 1992 En Alabanza - flac
Petra - 1992 Petraphonics (Compilation)
Petra - 1993 Wake-Up Call
Petra - 1994 Power Praise (Compilation) - 2003 CD
Petra - 1995 No Doubt
Petra - 1995 Rock Block (Compilation) - wav
Petra - 1996 The Early Years (Compilation)
Petra - 1997 Petra Praise 2 (We Need Jesus)
Petra - 1998 God Fixation
Petra - 2000 Double Take
Petra - 2001 Greatest Hits, Vol 1 (Compilation) - wav
Petra - 2001 Revival (Inpop Records)
Petra - 2002 Still Means War (Compilation) - wav
Petra - 2003 The Power Of Praise (Compilation)
Petra - 2005 Farewell
Petra - 2006 Top Five - flac 20+
Petra - 2006 Ultimate Collection (Compilation) - wav
Petra - 2007 The Definitive Collection (Compilation) - wav
Petra - 2011 Petra (1974) & Come And Join Us (1977)
Petra - 2012 Back To The Rock Live - wav 20+
Petra - 2012 Best of The 80's (Compilation)
Petra - 2012 More Power To Ya (30th Anniversary)
Petra - 2013 40th Anniversary
Petra - 2013 40th Anniversary (DeLuxe Edition) flac 20+
Petra - 2014 The Millennium Collection (Best Of) 20th Century Masters - wav
CPR Band - 2017 Back To The Rock II (Petra)
Petra (Heart Attack) - 2005 Project Damage Control
2 Guys From Petra - 2013 Vertical Expressions - flac
nothing in end = orginal CD , other you see the file format (up 22 KHz, ore an quality)

[Mountain Man]

I own every Petra album minus the compilations, which I have no use for. Petra never had any unreleased songs or "deep cuts", so there was never any reason to buy the compilations if you already had the albums. Someone once asked Bob Hartman about unreleased material that might be hidden away, and he said there isn't any, because Petra didn't have the money to record anything that wasn't going to be released on their next album.