Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

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Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by dihigo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:24 am

Upon recently downloading the new Newsboys album STAND, I couldn't help but wonder with anticipation & excitement if certain songs on their track listing like, "Stand," "Clean, and "No Doubt" were possibly Petra covers. However, I quickly realized that while common Christian subject matter may be repetitive in nature, CCM artists seldomly cover each other's work. Why is that? Is it a financial issue? I welcome this group's thoughts on this topic. We may never know. Until then, if I need to hear 1/3 of dc Talk covering a Petra song, I am left with listening to Kevin Max's "interpretation" of "Louie's Solo" from Never Say Dinosaur.
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by Progfan » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:08 pm

Well, One Bad Pig did a cover of “Judas’ Kiss.” Both Russ Taff and Chris Eaton recorded the song “Vision” by Eaton. Sheila Walsh did “Don’t Turn Your Back on Jesus” which was previously recorded by Lyrix (Eaton). Keith Green, Phil Keaggy, and Randy Stonehill all did “Love Broke Thru.” There are plenty of other examples. So, it does happen. Anyone remember any others?
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by sickasadog » Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:10 pm

Petra covered 4 E Band songs, if that counts:
The Coloring Song
Praise Ye The Lord
Without Him We Can Do Nothing
Let Everything that Hath Breath

Also, Guardian covered Stryper's entire first album.
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by brent » Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:07 am

Royalties must be paid to do cover songs, so no, there isn't much money in it now. Back in the day, CCM bands on the same label did covers to give the songs some legs with new/different audiences. CCM bands would seed audiences for another artist's tour. It was all about relationships.

As an aside from covers, in the secular world, owners of songs would have multiple artists record songs. As a song gained in popularity bigger artists would cover. Sometimes, writers had multiple artists cover and have crap for sales until an artist put a new spin on it and then have a hit. But, that was a different era. Read up on Motown, The Temptations, The Supremes, Marvyn Gaye, and Smokie.

The reason song titles are the same has nothing to do with Christianese per se, although there are lots of Christianese buzz words that get worn out. It is a part of song marketing. If you write a song and it has the same titles as another popular song, search engines and playlists will elevate it. This is perfectly legal. There is a book by Simon Hawkings called "Song Maps". He is a writer who writes with people all over the world and has succeeded in the CCM and country music industry. He discusses this in the book. Song titles and road maps (the story behind the song) are usually developed, then the lyrics.
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by Diehardpetrafan:) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:49 am

Isn't there a Larry Norman tribute album?
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by Progfan » Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:54 am

I would put tribute albums in a different category. Also would put material brought over from someone’s previous band in a different category. I think what we’re talking about is a song originally performed or made popular by one artist being done as a one-off by someone else.
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Post by Diehardpetrafan:) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:42 pm

Progfan wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:54 am
I would put tribute albums in a different category. Also would put material brought over from someone’s previous band in a different category. I think what we’re talking about is a song originally performed or made popular by one artist being done as a one-off by someone else.
Was wondering bout that. Makes sense

So TUOSAS singing Independence Day doesn't count either then, right?
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by George Harrison » Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:18 am

Diehardpetrafan:) wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:49 am
Isn't there a Larry Norman tribute album?
Kevin max did a Larry norman tribute album
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Post by Diehardpetrafan:) » Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:25 am

George Harrison wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:18 am
Diehardpetrafan:) wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:49 am
Isn't there a Larry Norman tribute album?
Kevin max did a Larry norman tribute album
But like, it had One Bad Pig on it, and Dana Key, unless there were two, I think that might have been the case, because Guardian was on one too.
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by George Harrison » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:11 pm

Diehardpetrafan:) wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:25 am
George Harrison wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:18 am
Diehardpetrafan:) wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:49 am
Isn't there a Larry Norman tribute album?
Kevin max did a Larry norman tribute album
But like, it had One Bad Pig on it, and Dana Key, unless there were two, I think that might have been the case, because Guardian was on one too.
Apparently there is a tribute album called "One Way: The Songs of Larry Norman" with some of them on it
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by Diehardpetrafan:) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:51 pm

George Harrison wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:11 pm
Diehardpetrafan:) wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:25 am
George Harrison wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:18 am
Diehardpetrafan:) wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:49 am
Isn't there a Larry Norman tribute album?
Kevin max did a Larry norman tribute album
But like, it had One Bad Pig on it, and Dana Key, unless there were two, I think that might have been the case, because Guardian was on one too.
Apparently there is a tribute album called "One Way: The Songs of Larry Norman" with some of them on it
Ya, I seen that one before, this one was green with a lady's head on it I think (the one I'm thinking of)
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Re: Newsboys Covering Petra Songs?

Post by Diehardpetrafan:) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:37 pm

I was thinking of The Mother of All Tribute Albums, that had One bad pig on it but it wasn't a Larry Norman tribute
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