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Petra/Kansas Connections

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:29 pm
by Michael
I've got my list of connections between Kansas and Petra ready to go. It's not linked from anywhere else on the site yet... gotta figure out where would be a logical place. Hmm.

Anyway, stop by and see what you think.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:56 pm
by charl
The only problem I see is that Petra did not record one cover song, since the one you have listed is not God Gave Rock and Roll to You.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:42 pm
by separateunion
Nice catch. Was "God Gae Rock and Roll to You" an exact cover, or were some of the lyrics changed like KISS did?

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:45 pm
by charl
Yes lyrics were changed. Does this exempt it from still being a cover?

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:03 am
by WR1U
not a cover but a reimaging. :D

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:13 am
by BriGuyPEI
You could do one of those with Petra vs. Audio Adrenaline

P: self-titled debut
AA: self-titled debut

P: principle songwriter Bob Hartman
AA: principle songwriter Bob Herdman

P: recorded live album in 1985
AA: recorded live album in 1995

P: Bob stepped aside from touring but remained active with band
AA: Bob stepped aside from touring but remained active with band

P: "Farewell" tour in 2005
AA: "Adios" tour in 2006

P: "Farewell" CD/DVD
AA: "The Farewell Concert" CD/DVD

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:31 am
by brent
charl wrote:Yes lyrics were changed. Does this exempt it from still being a cover?
Petra changed lyrics, Kiss changed lyrics too. Technically, legally, this is a closer to a cover than a parody, because the majority of the tune remained the same.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:24 pm
by charl
Hereis Argent playing God Gave Rock and Roll for anyone that's never heard it.


The Come and Join Us version remains le mieux.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:14 pm
by p-freak
The Come and Join Us version remains le mieux.
Definitely!

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:37 pm
by Schlittism33
Argent featured Russ Ballard - who wrote the song "God Gave Rock n' Roll to You" performed by Petra ... he also wrote the song "Since You've Been Gone" performed by Head East :shock: Thats so crazy! lol

What God Gave

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm
by Michael
charl wrote:The only problem I see is that Petra did not record one cover song, since the one you have listed is not God Gave Rock and Roll to You.
That's a good catch! I suppose GGR&RTY could be considered a "rewrite" although you guys are right... closer to a cover than a parody, for sure. I don't have the time at the moment, but when I get a chance I'll notate that one. Since it's not an exact cover, though, I'll stick by my guns. HA!! Image

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:27 am
by Boray
:D I think you should mention Dino Elefante as well.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:35 am
by Boray
And how about the Petra Praise records... Isn't that covers???

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:23 pm
by Michael
Boray wrote::D I think you should mention Dino Elefante as well.
I don't think Dino was involved with Kansas. John was the lead singer for several years.
Boray wrote:And how about the Petra Praise records... Isn't that covers???
Those are, to me, kind of a different animal, and I don't know if I would put Matt Redman or whoever on a par with Keith Green and the Beatles. Come to think of it, I don't know if I would put Argent up their either, since it seems like they're fairly obscure now for a band that in their prime were so well-known (sort of like Head East!)

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:36 am
by Boray
Michael wrote:I don't think Dino was involved with Kansas. John was the lead singer for several years.
As a songwriter. On most of the Kansas Elefante songs, it says "by John Elefante and Dino Elefante".