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I'm not sure you're right about the VHS. The video might be from a single show, but the audio is definitely from the album mix because it is note-for-note identical.p-freak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:52 pmWrong. The vinyl version is the intermediate version between the cassette and the CD. The CD was heavily cut down to fit 74 minutes, and there were no such rigid constraints with the vinyl version. The European vinyl version has Greg's speech at the end of the concert cut out, so not all vinyl versions are identical.Mountain Man wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:15 pmFinally, there's the vinyl version which I've never heard but I understand is even more trimmed down than the CD
Regarding the VHS, you have to remember that the audio was recorded at three different shows, while the VHS was captured at one show. So there are bound to be differences between the VHS and the audio versions.
Obama was mentioned first, then Trump returned (my faultGeorge Harrison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:20 pmWhat's Donald Trump doing on the petra zone again? I just had to deal with the fact that Canada gets another four years of Justin Trudeau, seems like I just can't avoid politics wherever I go
). It is on topic to the extent that it is going to be interesting to see if Trump can beat the system.The video is clearly from one show. Same room, same audience, same clothing.Mountain Man wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:36 pmI'm not sure you're right about the VHS. The video might be from a single show, but the audio is definitely from the album mix because it is note-for-note identical.
I think that seems likelyDiehardpetrafan:) wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:51 amIf Beat The System is from 1984, image.jpg and Captured in Time and Space is from 1985, image.jpg that could mean that Beat The System was released in 1984, and they had some tours in 1985, which would've been recorded for CITAS, right?
Just my thought ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh yes, it will be interesting. I will get my popcorn ready and watch the American election next year.curt wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:30 amObama was mentioned first, then Trump returned (my faultGeorge Harrison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:20 pmWhat's Donald Trump doing on the petra zone again? I just had to deal with the fact that Canada gets another four years of Justin Trudeau, seems like I just can't avoid politics wherever I go
HahaI'm certain they did dub in the album audio on top of the video recording because the VHS/DVD audio is not merely similar but literally identical. The crowd noises, Greg's inflection and nuance, his mid-song comments (such as "Now everybody on this one" during the intro for "More Power To Ya", or "We're gonna praise the Lord, everybody, now come on!" during the lead in to "Let Everything That Hath Breath"), everything is exactly the same with the exception of whatever edits were made depending on the version.p-freak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:43 amThe video is clearly from one show. Same room, same audience, same clothing.Mountain Man wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:36 pmI'm not sure you're right about the VHS. The video might be from a single show, but the audio is definitely from the album mix because it is note-for-note identical.
They might have dubbed the video with the best audio, but I sincerely hope they didn't do that. I would just assume that the bits that are present on the audio version and not on the video version are the bits from the other shows. And also, if a band plays the same show day after day, I'm not that surprised if two recordings from two consecutive days sound note for note the same.
CITAS was recorded in late November 1985, no way it was released in the same year, so I wouldn't put too much stock on the years in Bob's book.Diehardpetrafan:) wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:51 amIf Beat The System is from 1984, and Captured in Time and Space is from 1985, that could mean that Beat The System was released in 1984, and they had some tours in 1985, which would've been recorded for CITAS, right?
Just my thought ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok it was just a guessp-freak wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:31 pmCITAS was recorded in late November 1985, no way it was released in the same year, so I wouldn't put too much stock on the years in Bob's book.Diehardpetrafan:) wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:51 amIf Beat The System is from 1984, and Captured in Time and Space is from 1985, that could mean that Beat The System was released in 1984, and they had some tours in 1985, which would've been recorded for CITAS, right?
Just my thought ¯\_(ツ)_/¯