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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:37 pm
by brent
Not all Christians hold to the "Good Friday" and Sunday resurrection theory.

Some would say that the grave was discovered to be empty on Sunday morning before dawn. The text does not say when the Angels arrived exactly or that they had to be there for Jesus to get out. We know in fact that his resurrceted body was able to move through matter, so he didn't need them to open the grave.

He was out before Sunday began, so Saturday. Kind of puts a kink in the translation of things....some would say.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:40 am
by p-freak
And what's your point? Did Petra sing a song about this?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:07 am
by separateunion
He wasn't born on December 25th either, yet we celebrate His birthday on that date every year. Regardless of when He rose from the grave, we celebrate His resurrection on Sunday. If you want to believe He rose on Saturday no one is going to give you a hard time about it, but you're really splitting hairs if you felt the need to make that statement. Since we don't even celebrate the exact date of Jesus resurrection and no one made a claim that He did rise on a Sunday ("Easter Sunday" was simply stated because that is when we traditionally celebrate His resurrection), the whole argument was unnecessary, imo.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:51 am
by executioner
separateunion wrote:He wasn't born on December 25th either, yet we celebrate His birthday on that date every year. Regardless of when He rose from the grave, we celebrate His resurrection on Sunday. If you want to believe He rose on Saturday no one is going to give you a hard time about it, but you're really splitting hairs if you felt the need to make that statement. Since we don't even celebrate the exact date of Jesus resurrection and no one made a claim that He did rise on a Sunday ("Easter Sunday" was simply stated because that is when we traditionally celebrate His resurrection), the whole argument was unnecessary, imo.
I didn't see an agrument going on!!! Brent was just stating something that some Christians realize about Christmas and Easter; Its really not a big deal.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:11 am
by Dan
Sometimes I think Christians need to set aside a new set of days to celebrate our lord, as these once symbolic days are now pagan (Santa & easter bunny) then again why give up the fight! did that make sense?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:26 am
by brent
Some Christians would say that since Jesus WAS a Jew, we should hold to those dates and times of his birth, death and resurrection, because the events were centered around other documented, historical events, which adds legitimacy to the event.

We do not have a blind faith. Faith is the EVIDENCE of things unseen. We have EVIDENCE, the days of the events, thanks to the bible and the Jewish calender.

It has been said that our major holidays are pagan. Our calendar is named after pagan gods and their worship days. Christians can write all kinds of justifying works about the real meaning of the Christmas tree and how Easter really means new life for a believer. But that is ALL crap. This stuff makes the Christian world look like uneducated morons when the true written history about these days exists.

My point was not to split hairs or start an argument, but to make a point that Petra really did a smart thing by not doing songs that mention Easter and Christmas, because not all Christians are at ease with putting a Christian slant on a pagan day. It is like the church did not have the balls to make a stand, and did the typical roll-over and bury the head, giving in to the world. THAT is the point.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:03 am
by brent
Relating the crucifixion and resuurection to the daily Charistian's life:

Killin' My Old Man would apply in my mind.

He Came He Saw He Conquered is good.