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Post by epdc » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:53 pm

I meant that is NOT made of gossip eek
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Post by PetfanInCt » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:35 pm

Micheal Moore said there is no terrorist threat. Is this guy out of his mind. Well shouldn't be surprised he had support from some terrorist groups in the mid east to show his farren crap movie over there.

The United States Military found some computer disks in Iraq that showed floor plans of severall American Elementary Schools. Do you recall what happened in Russia a month ago. A school was taken hostage 300 children died along with some parents. In fact several kids were shot in the back trying to escape.

No terrorist threat huh. Is Micheal Moron on crack. This sickening liberal wacko is a loser and he represents the core of the democratic way of thinking. His movies are all pieces of poo poo..

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Post by LexingtonPethead » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:37 pm

Elo, I would challenge you to see "FahrenHYPE 9-11" - the documentary film about Michael Moron's piece of crap. It will be out very soon.

Also, be sure to catch "Stolen Honor - Wounds That Never Heal".

I dare say - is there a Christian in the USA who would vote for Scary Kerry? NOT!!
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Post by Shell » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:49 pm

That's a good suggestion, David.

Rich, you can't see me, but I'm laughing right now. That last statement is just classic. :) Guess it's better than the other word though.
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Post by LexingtonPethead » Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:15 pm

Thanks, Shell. Hey, I thought Rich's comments were a hoot also.
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Post by PetfanInCt » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:26 pm

LexingtonPethead wrote:Elo, I would challenge you to see "FahrenHYPE 9-11" - the documentary film about Michael Moron's piece of crap. It will be out very soon.

Also, be sure to catch "Stolen Honor - Wounds That Never Heal".

I dare say - is there a Christian in the USA who would vote for Scary Kerry? NOT!!
Theres also another movie coming out called celious 41.something <spelling to combat faren crap also.
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Post by epdc » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:35 pm

allright David, I will :), I`m open minded and as soon it gets here I will watch it because I DO wanna see different perspectives :)


SO, any of you have seen Fahrenheit 9/11? you are saying is poo so I assume you watch it, right? because if you don`t then you are just being Bush fanatic and your argument is not valid.
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I forgot to put this....soooooooo

Post by epdc » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:41 pm

NO ONE answered my question about that if ALL the things Moore shows in his movie (documents, interviews, facts,dates) are a HUGE lie or not. So that makes me think you haven`t seen it because you are Bush fanatics and you are not being objective (I`m not fighting ok? :) see? I`m being nice!!!) :)

and you haven`t seen the other two movies that talks negative about Moore and you are already saying is awesome. You guys are not objective. You are just seeing what you wanna see. You are choosing what to see, you have to see ALL the info, even if you don`t like some of the stuff you see (ya know, sometimes we don`t like reality but reality stills there).

With this I don`t mean that I support Kerry, I don`t support NONE of them. Either of them convince me. My point is that you guys gotta objective. I know is tough, but you gotta admit Bush has committed serious mistakes , he is not perfect like any of us is.AGAIN and AGAIN , personal believes and politics DON`T MIX. Only because someone is christian or catholic or whatever it doesn`t mean is gonna be a good president or anything like that.

If there were a documental about kerry I would watch it and I would invite you to watch it.
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I just wanna make a clear point

Post by epdc » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:01 pm

I`m not telling to vote for Kerry, either for Bush. I just want you guys to see as many perspectives as you can of both candidates. Don`t follow just one (in Bush case for example, you all have the perspective of him being a christian so is a good choice), see what other people say of him, not only Moore but also reporters, any biography you can find, that kind of stuff ya know. If there were a documental about kerry (either positive or negative) I would invite you watch it, because you can`t make a good choice when you vote if you don`t have all the information.


You guys gotta have all the positive and negative info of those candidates so you can make an analysis and decide which one.

I don`t car eif you vote for Bush (I wouldn`t vote for him) but if you do, I will respect you as long I know you actually KNEW about Bush, that you knew all positives and negatives and decided to vote for him.

Ya know, there might be things about Bush you might not like so you are just deciding to put aside that information. Haven`t you thought that maybe even the negative stuff can be true?.

You do believe negative info about Kerry is true but you just can`t even consider that maybe some Bush negative information might be true because you don`t want to believe that because that would destroy your "christian presidente" image. Nobody is perfect, he must have a good side but also a bad side.

well, you might not even know any negative about Bush since none of you watch the negative perspective Moore shows on his movies.
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Post by Shell » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:26 pm

Documents, facts and dates can be false and made up Elo. Or even have a little truth mixed in with a bunch of misleading stuff. :wink: And I admitted I hadn't seen his movie. I've been buried in school, I haven't had time for anything. LOL. But I do manage to check out the Zone. :)
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Post by epdc » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:14 pm

I`m agree with you shell, sometimes info is all made up. Maybe what Michael Moore says is made up....but also can be true!!! watch the movie when you get a chance.

AND ALSO, what Bush says about himself can be very true and honest...or also can be made up as well... think about it...
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Post by LexingtonPethead » Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:22 pm

Elo, first of all... what you don't realize is that in America, we know that Michael Moron is full of crap. He is a left-wing extremist. We all know that. Since you don't live in America, you wouldn't be privy to knowing that - and that's not your fault. You can believe this - anything Michael Moron puts out is pure garbage. No Christian here would defend anything Mr. Moron says or does. He does not even deserve to call himself an American.

As far as Christianity and politics are concerned, let me ask you a few questions. What if you had a leader who signed laws made executive orders that were clearly against Christianity and good moral judgement? What if this leader led a corrupt life that young people began to model their lives after?

On the other hand, what if you had a leader who defended Christian and family values by making sure those rights were protected? What if this leader reversed executive orders that were immoral and wrong. What if this leader was the same person on Saturday night as he was on Sunday morning?

You see, Elo, it makes a HUGE difference if our leaders are Christians. I can tell you Bush is a Christian because of what he does - not because of what he says. Our President seeks the Lord's guidance each day. Let's be honest here - I know you can't tell me that you wouldn't rather have a leader who shares your faith in Christ - someone who would defend the core values you hold so dear in your heart - someone who you would be proud to have your kids look up to - in a respectful way.

And let's be honest about something else. Most people who are not Americans find it popular to bash America. They want America to take it on the chin because there's a lot of envy out there. Yes, we have it good here... we are blessed, and we are free. A lot of people hate us because of it. It has become popular in less fortunate countries to hate America.

Of course, I know you don't hate America. But please don't give any creedance to people who do - people like Michael Moron. Make no mistake - Michael Moron hates America. And he wants you to hate America too. You and everybody else who lend him their open minds. Don't believe a word of what he says.

And one more thing, Elo. If I know you - if you lived in America and knew George W. Bush the way we know him - not only would you enthusiastically vote for him, you would encourage others to do the same. I know you would because you have the same values we do - just not the same knowledge we have of our President.
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Post by LexingtonPethead » Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:37 pm

Elo, please watch this trailer for Celcius 411.

http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/
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David!!!!!!

Post by epdc » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:12 pm

Great, now you got mad!!!!.

I`M NOT FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!, I thought arguing was for taking out stress and talk about interesting stuff but not for getting hangry (LOL).

I just saw the trailer and I believe that movie must be great, as soon the movie gets here or find someone here who can get it for me, I`ll see it because I wanna see another`s perspective besid�s Moore`s perspective so then I can decide what opinion am I gonna build.

AGAIN, you haven`t answered me if you watched Fahrenhet 9/11. It seems you have built your opinion about Moore in the opinion of other people who prolly didn`t see it and took their opinion about TV who of course will not be agree with Moore`s perspective because Bush is president right now.I REALLY REALLY encourage you to watch it. I don`t want you to watch it because I wanna convince you to have my same point of view, I just want you to see a different perspective, I just want you to be open minded and that if you watch the movie it doesn`t mean you will betray Bush or betray your personal believes.

Again, I`m not telling you to vote for Bush or Kerry. I just think this: If someone made a movie who talks negative about a candidate (in this case Bush) I would think something ya know. I would have some questions ya know. So because of that I would invesitgate more about each candidate, because I would think: yeah, Moore made a movie about the Bush`s dark side, but no one made a movie about Kerry, so, who knows what this guy might be hiding too?.

So that would encourage me to investiaget by myself about both candidates. And I would not only look for all the good things they have,I would also check all the negative stuff they might have or several people has said so. Because as the trailer says, you gotta be careful in who you vote, so I wouldn`t just pick one just because is christian.

Again, you just can`t choose someone because is christian, you gotta see the knowledge, habilities I don`t know, many other details!!!. Yeah, I would love that in my country my president were christian (is catholic) but you have to understand that in this times we are living times where politics and believes don`t mix. I have met amazing people who is not christian and people who is christian and would really disappoint you. Yeah, the believes are important but you can`t base your opinion on that.
If you check both candidates that way and you still wanna vote for Bush, is ok David :), I respect that. But you gotta see really REALLY as many perspectives as possible of both candidates. I thought Moore would start a desire of people to investigate more (who knows? maybe at the end of your search you`ll realize he is right OR that maybe all those were lies, and you would know that by yourself not by what the TV says about Moore).

If all americans are pro Bush, why many artists are not agree with Bush?, I don`t wanna start a long discussion about this, my point is this: you statement is not totally right, not all americans are pro bush (latins and black people for example are not supporting Bush either).

AND DONPT GET MAD!!!!!!!!! you look so cute with your baby on da pic!!!!!!! and anyways, even if I wanted to fight, I don`t think I could fight with someone who is putting a pic like that on his avatar (awwwww).

I`m gonna save the link to celcius because I wanna check more about it later.
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Post by epdc » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:25 pm

I don`t think Moore hates america and his message doesn`t make other countries hate america. I think it makes hate the government but not the people (HE EVEN SAYS SO ON A PRESS CONFERENCE!!!).

I think Michael Moore loves his country and that encouraged him for doing all this. He wants the same thing you want: that USA be a better place to live. The difference is that you think that a way of making this dream true is by voting for Bush and he thinks that the way for making this dream true is by NOT voting for Bush.

Ya know, if I have heard negative comments about USA (because of Moore`s work) nobody talks about americans, everyone talks about Bush. Even Moore says americans are very nice people, he doesn`t hate his brothers and sisters!!!!. I believe he hates the system Bush is having but not his country, Maybe his way of trying to make his country better is right or wrong, but I believe he is trying to do what he thinks is the best.
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