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Anatomy of a Concert

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:00 am
by brent
These are the expenses involved with a legit real show. The next time that people gripe about ticket prices (not saying that some are not infated) they should keep in mind that it is not the band that keeps all of the money. In fact, on many major tours like the Stones, merchandise sales is the only real money maker, because they get 50% of the revenue. ALL other things are about non-profitable.

Obviously small tours will not cost as much, but some expenses will be the same. Gas, truck leasing, Prevost bus leasing, drivers, engineers, perdiems, legal, accounting, labor, etc cost everyone the same money. So bigger tours are more profitable because they will sell more merch based on attendance. Not necessarilly because of more ticket sales.

Here is who gets paid:

Band

Band's booking agent/firm (10% minimum of band's pay)
Band's manager/firm (10% minimum of band's pay)
Band's P/R person/firm (complicated, usually paid a flat rate)
Band's attorney/firm
Merchandise, merch sales manager
Production (Lights, Sound, Video, Staging, Rigging, Union and non-union labor, audio, video, lighting engineers, technicians, riggers, guitar techs, drum techs, stage managers, production managers, etc)
Transportation
Freight
Perdiems

Venue
Venue's take of concessions
Venue union/non-union electrician, rigger, system tech
Venue management
Venue security
Venue insurance

Promoter
Promoter's 50% cut of merch sales
Promoter's attorney/firm
Promoter's accountant/firm
Promoter's band buy-outs
Event Liscense/permits
Insurance

Bah

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:35 pm
by Jonathan
Remind me to stay indie.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:09 am
by ErioL
I was under the impression that touring was where the bands got their money, and that the it was the record sales where they saw a limited return?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:50 pm
by brent
They do make their money touring. I was merely showing what it takes to put on a show so that people would get a clue, and get off of Stryper's back and also understand why things cost the way that they do.

Often times if the tours are soft, but record sales are good, a band can go to the band and borrow money against the points to be earned on the next release. This is how they sustain themselves in between tours.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:24 pm
by ErioL
^Right...I've reserved judgement for the whole Stryper deal, because I simply don't know the story. I've heard the promoters say its immoral, but I don't know the other side in the same way. It doesn't really affect me anyway, I'll let them work it out.

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:17 am
by SamScales
Even travelling and ministering "indie" is expensive in itself. Gas, Food, Motel at times when you can't stay with someone.......and repairs when the vehicle breaks down :P :D