do you wanna read something crazy and incredibly sad?

[epdc]

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html

my heart cries for this people I pray to God He reveals to them....

[eknock]

This jerk came to protest something in our town a few years back, he is a disgrace. He is the epidomy of the homosexual propagandists "typical Christian". This jerk is making it harder for us all...

[Shell]

That is pretty sad...God hates sin, not the sinner. This is totally ignoring the fact that they can turn from their sin and accept Jesus.

[seichu kaisho]

I've been told by my fellow Christani friends that there will be "Acceptance" videos shown at elementary schools - videos that promote acceptance of homosexuality. This get's me real P.O.'d because that's missing the point by just a few centimeters (eternally detrimental centimeters) - just like we shouldn't discriminate blacks or Hispanics, sexually immoral people shouldn't be discriminated either - but we still need to hate the immorality

[Shell]

It's all a bunch of garbage...They would be screaming about the narrow minded bigoted religious people forcing their beliefs on others if Christians did that sort of thing. If they don't have to be forced to accept Christianity, we shouldn't be forced to accept their immoral life style either. They definitely have a double standard.

[epdc]

not for fighting or anything, I just wanted to tell them some of the stuff you said about how God hates sin not sinners.

I said "if God hates gays because being gay is a sin then God hates us all because we are all sinners and if God hates us all He wouldn`t die for us.

Don`t think they would answer (hope not, I`m not in mood) but wanted to say that.

I felt so sad for them. I mean, just imagine this: one day they will die and just imagine what God is gonna tell them: you guys were wrong... I think that would be horrible.

what REALLY made me mad was that I watched a michael moore show (please don`t change the subject!) and there it appeared that group protesting with huge cards and stuff, cards that said "when a gay dies, God laughs" Isaiah 31:3.... I was like WWWHHHHAAAAATTTT????? the Bible doesn`t say that!!!!!!! can you imagine what people who doesn`t read the Bible is gonna think???? people is gonna think that the Bible actually says that!!

a sheep that never returned to the pastor died and went to hell, do you think Gpd is gonna find that funny?
I told them that. Yeah, I know I won`t make a difference, these people seems to be very closed minded and fanatics.

I`m not saying we gotta say "is ok to be gay, is NORMAL! NO WAY, is common but not normal. But we won`t reach gay people to Jesus by attacking them and calling them fags and that God hates them blablabla. We don`t have a right to do that. Maybe we are not gays but I know we are or have been either liers, maybe thieves, killers, prostitutes, drugaddicts or ANYTHING related to do with what God doesn`t like. if we attack them they have the same right to attack us. What we have to do is to pray for this people and ask God to reflect Himself through us so they can reach out to God and recognize their mistake.

[Shell]

It is wrong for them to protest with signs like that; God doesn't want anyone to die in a lost state. That hatred is a sin too. You were right in what you said in your e-mail to them, but I'll be surprised if they bother to reply to it. You can't really reason with people like that.

[Michael]

They've picketed our church... we're pretty close to Wichita here in Tulsa. They targeted us because we have a restoration ministry for former gays who have left the lifestyle. Our youth pastor took a camera out and talked to them... I wish you could see the video he made where he let them say what they had to say, and then displayed on the screen the exact Scripture they were contradicting. It was pretty powerful... almost funny, in a sad sort of way. Those folks are so blinded by their hate that they won't listen to any "truth" but their own.

[Jonathan]

I predict a riot.

[epdc]

michael, do you mean they attacked your church? does that mean picket and target???

WOW, really, I have never felt this way about anyone but I`m really sad for them

ya know, my pastor was like so judge by other people in the past because since the church were I was is a whole auditorium and some people wanted to use it for an stylist congress ya know (is a like a weekend event) and a lot of them are gay, my pastor allowed it with a condition: that he and his crew (the other pastors) were allowed to preach an small message between each of their conferences. They agreed. I truly believe my pastor put a seed in each heart that went there. maybe people told him he was wrong and stuff. But geez, JUST LOOK AT JESUS!!!! he hung out with EVERYONE!!!! we have to do the same thing Jesus did, so these people can know God.

does your church has a website michael?? I would love to know more about that ministry you mentioned.