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Do you listen to secular music?
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:12 pm
by adrinux
I did. and you?
What do you think? is it wrong or right?
I've been wondering about it....
well
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:17 pm
by epdc
i do listen secular music.
ya know, music is music, the thing that COULD change it is the lyrics. and also, of what lyrics are we talking about?
God doesn`t get mad if you make a song about your girlfriend or about the war or to take a poem and make lyrics. God gave us creativity. if you think about it, if you say listen secular music is wrong then secular novels and poetry and paintings and scuptures and tv is also wrong so you would be isolated...
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:39 pm
by micah
Nah, I find secular music rather pointless. I have plenty of good Christian music, and it keeps my mind in the right place, so what's the point?
Sin? No.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:05 am
by charl
Aaabsolutely.
There are many talented musicians I would miss out on if I didn't. Most of my faves are secular, though there was a time that I listened to mostly christian music because that was what I liked. I would NEVER say that we should listen to it exclusively. The "christian only" road is a scary and dangerous one to walk down. One may be able to do it, but man it would be difficult; it usually runs into dark and tangled woods (ie the christian ghetto-or worse) for the believer who goes there.
Physical creation is inherently good, God himself has told us this. We do not need to sanctify our own creative works by making them 'Christian'. We do not need to wear christian clothes, go to christian buildings, drive christian cars and drink christian coffee out of christian mugs. Christ redeemed creation when he rose from the dead, this includes the arts. It seems far too gnostic for my comfort to declare that something must be made acceptable by the label "christian" or it is somehow bad. This creates in Christians a need to sanctify even the simplest things-a need which becomes a mockery of God and the scriptures that even non-christians find sacreligious.
Things like this. I would lean more towards that kind of irreverence being wrong than listening to secular music, and I see it as being born of the same attitude that condemns such music.
This is not the protestant way. We were freed from the secular/sacred split hundreds of years ago, why do we feel the need to resurrect it? This too is on the list of heavy burdens being placed on other's backs.
However, I would say that if a person feels it is wrong to listen to secular music, then they should not. I am a firm believer in not violating one's concience. Someone else having a certain freedom does not mean you have it as well (as per Romans 14).
I would also argue (as I have before) that people who are so into certain secular bands that they become defensive about them and begin to always see 'good' that is not there should perhaps think twice about how much alliegance they owe the band, and consider it may be more than they are giving God.
Also the person who simply likes only Christian music is doing no wrong. He perhaps just loves to hear about the mercies of God and nothing else really interests him-even music for it's own sake.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:08 am
by WR1U
I haven't listened to secular music since I was 17. I'm 38 now. It just excite me like Christian music does. When you start talking about Jesus it's thrilling as apposed to what they talk about. I do like a "good" love song though that reminds me of my wife but I don't like any smut in it.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:56 am
by skayc1
I listen to some, esp country music,
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:56 am
by separateunion
Mainstream music in general is far superior to what is found in the Christian market.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:20 pm
by tomtsc
I listen to secular music all the time. My local christian radio has played the same type music for the 6 years that i have lived here. They have 15 -20 songs that are in there playlist and don't play anything different. They don't even take requests, so i stopped listening to them a long time ago. And I don't have a problem listening to all types of music, christian or non christian.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:16 pm
by Shell
I listen to secular music...Mostly older stuff like the Beatles, Beach Boys, Journey, Pretenders, Dan Fogelberg when I'm feeling mushy and sentimental, etc. Classic stuff.
I had a funny experience yesterday...I went to Barnes & Noble and bought a CD. The gal at the cash register was pretty young, probably in her early 20s. I told her I was slowly replacing my albums on CD, and she went "You mean like vinyl albums?" It was like she'd never met anyone old enough to remember vinyl albums before, LOL. Sheesh, I don't consider myself that old, but I guess I might seem that way to someone in their early 20s.
These youngsters who grew up on CDs don't know what they missed.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:19 am
by adrinux
I was worried about it.
I like Dream Theater so much because they really play their intruments.
But it has not changed my life. I still keep praying and praising the Lord.
We just should not put our heart in these songs and bands, even though they may not speak bad things....we must have God as the first in our lifes...
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:31 am
by executioner
Most of the CCM is just to bubble gum for me. Here are the secular ones I listen to on a regular basis. Really nothing new music really sucks today.
Journey
Bon Jovi
Def Leppard
Stryper
U2
BTW most overated band is the Beatles, and most underated is Def Leppard.
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:41 am
by Shell
Hehe. I remember having a Beatles discussion awhile back...By today's standards they might seem dated, but for their time they were really innovative. There aren't very many bands who haven't been influenced by them in some way.
And Paul McCartney is still good looking.

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:00 pm
by executioner
I think when a rock band doesn't even use all the chord progressions and only use three chords(guitar) than I would say the talent is lacking.
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:04 pm
by charl
I belong to the Louis Armstrong school of musical appreciation. So as far as I'm concerned the Beatles were a great band-though the earlier stuff is not so great. And George was totally the best.
Def Leppard? Ahhh....you guys are the same ones who said Led Zep was not metal!!

bando bando
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:10 pm
by seichu kaisho
I have albums by these secular music artists:
Def Leppard
U2
Grand Funk Railroad
Weird Al Yankovic
Vicente Fern�ndez (Mexican singer)
These are some bands i enjoy listening to on the radio:
Aerosmith
Led Zeppelin
The Who
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Steve Miller Band
Van Halen
Styx
Boston
Journey
Rush
The Police
Grateful Dead
Whitesnake
Bon Jovi