The Petra Zone

This article has me absolutely sick.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/broo ... Fviq8CjvAL

Why, preytell, does the homeowner NOT have the right to by a shotgun and simply open up fire on these people? Its certainly what I would do!!!

Interesting situation, I support OWS but this really does just make the OWS people seem stupid...

These OWS people have been involved in all kinds of criminal activity. This is just the latest example. They are basically a fine example of what happens to a society when we move away from asking what we can do for our country and start demanding that our country do everything for us. They are committed to communism and are a blight on everything this country was founded on.

knotodiswrld wrote:Why, preytell, does the homeowner NOT have the right to by a shotgun and simply open up fire on these people? Its certainly what I would do!!!

So your suggestion is for Ahadzi to brutally slaughter people, and add the previously untapped martyr fuel to the OWS fire. I'm not familiar with the nuances of the murder laws in my country, but he may not have that right.

He had to know the time was coming where he wasn't going to be able to pay to live there. People lose their jobs and get in over their heads. That's why most areas have failsafes, grace periods and assistance for renters. He could have rented the place out to some other sucker instead of curiously letting it sit vacant.

It's a crying shame he's refused the help put in place for that type of situation, at least at this point. Also passing squatting off as a socio-political statement is detestable.

So your suggestion is for Ahadzi to brutally slaughter people, and add the previously untapped martyr fuel to the OWS fire. I'm not familiar with the nuances of the murder laws in my country, but he may not have that right.

Brutally? Nah. With proper marksmanship, they will feel very little pain.

But your point about the nuances of homicide laws is exactly what I am saying. I am wondering whether the laws in his state allow the forcible defense of his own property.

To be honest, I'm not sure about the application of homicide laws in my state. I do know that if I am in my home and someone breaks in, if I wait until he is actually in the house, I can legally put a bullet in his head.

Also, if property is properly posted as "No Trespassing", then the laws allow even more latitude.

Your comment about "martyr fuel" is well taken, but I fear it is unavoidable. The OWS crowd will continue to violate the rights of others until they are stopped by force, and sooner or later a property owner or a parent just walking their kid to school will have to do exactly that.

Protesting is fine. Invading someone's home and threatening children on their way to school is another matter altogether.

Jonathan wrote:He had to know the time was coming where he wasn't going to be able to pay to live there. People lose their jobs and get in over their heads. That's why most areas have failsafes, grace periods and assistance for renters. He could have rented the place out to some other sucker instead of curiously letting it sit vacant.

It's a crying shame he's refused the help put in place for that type of situation, at least at this point.

According to the article, we aren't talking about rental property. This was property the man owned but had a mortgage on. The bank had begun forclosure proceedings, but the single father mentioned, at this point, is still the legal owner of the property. That means it's HIS, and no one should be there without his consent.

My assumption was that the foreclosure proceedings forced him to vacate the property until the matter was settled. It does seem curious, I'll admit, that he wasn't in the house still, but that doesn't change the fact that, for the moment, he still owns it.

Also, we don't know if he refused help, or if he was simply unable to get any. Frankly, I know of no such help available in my area.