Indie does not pay

[brent]

THIS is reality. This is why labels must recover/return. http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permali ... 23tunecore

[bakersfieldpethead]

I already knew this. The fees for this crap are sky high everywhere. I think that itunes is a scam for the indie artist because you have to have advertisment to still let new people know your music is in iTunes, who gets advertised by iTunes? The Signed Artists.

[rexreed]

I've said this before. Eventually people are going to have to accept the fact that movies, TV and music cost money to produce.

begin rant
You will have to pay for them otherwise people will stop producing them. In the states you used to be able to get away with watching a TV show and the only payment was enduring commercials. With the advent of DVRS that will exclude the commercials and viewership fragmented more than ever this model doesn't work like it used to. Redbox and Netflix put Blockbuster and all the small town video stores out of business. Those jobs, and wide selections are gone. The studios lost a revenue source ans will not be so cheap the next time they negotiate with redbox or netflix- which leads to higher prices. Last year Netflix raised prices and customers had a hissy fit. Folks, the younger generation feels like everything should be free. For some-paying i for music or movies is completely alien in concept. Itunes and emusic give more back to the artist than spotify or Pandora and that is still not enough. I spend less on music now because there is not as much that I want, and because it is not available in stores like it used to be, but I am still purchasing it.

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[executioner]

I agree with your rant. I have a 16 yr old that thinks everything is free and should be his right to use it no matter what. He told me the other day to come out of the dark age and get with it, We go around & around about this. The store market is losing the battle on all things, and online purchases are through the roof. If I had a store that was still selling CD's I would buy from them, but its no longer an option. Radio listenership was down for like the 10th straight year and their expecting another 8% loss in market share this year. Things like Itunes and Pandora have killed radio and CD.

[rexreed]

"Things like Itunes and Pandora have killed radio and CD."

exactly, and I would ad that ipods loaded up with music that was never paid for helped. The thing is many artists and labels aren't receiving enough money from the replacements to justify the cost of producing new material. Eventually the labels will have to up the price (like what movie studios are doing now that video stores are dead) to the online content providers but that has not happened yet.

[bakersfieldpethead]

I don't understand how people can call themselves "Fans" of an artist and hurt them at the same time.
It's like the explanation I give to people about a lot of women who call themselves fans of an aritst, you go out with them and they want you to stop what you're doing and they don't want you to go out and perform music anymore, but they'll go to a Brad Paisley Concert and say "Oh I wish I could be his wife" why? He wouldn't want You, He wants to have a career!!!

Who wants fans who steal from them. I never understood why a "Fan" could run up to a Record Table at a concert and steal a CD when no one is looking. Why steal the music online. It's not right, you love that artist? You're a fan of that artsit? Prove it, don't hurt them from making a living.

[brent]

Meanwhile, as Sue and I discussed the other day, hundreds, if not thousands, of people in a foreign country, where there is NO Christian radio business, no Christian music store business, no Christianity allowed, knowing who John and Petra are, knowing their songs word for word, with no legal CDs sold, tracked and royalties paid to John/Petra. It's like I told Sue....if a country does not really have the means, and it is illegal to be a Christian, then I am all for letting them have it for free, WITH MY PERMISSION. But to take it from me without asking....that is wrong.

But, where people have the means to pay, and they are expecting to be blessed by the music, then they should pay for the music, like they pay for food, clothing, etc. The industry has to come back around at some point. There needs to be a better sounding product that allows us fat, lazy butt Americans to download, and still get some cash into the artist's hands. Personally, I am hoping for a new proprietary player and physical media, completely different from the computing industry, so that people have to have something dedicated to listening to music. Then the recording industry can dictate quality and technology and we can all experience some truly killer stuff, and not have to be subject to all of the issues personal computing, politics and software company gambling brings.

[bakersfieldpethead]

Not to count the fact that those who download music at all these free downloadable sites and use software like Limewire or Frostwire are putting themselves at risk of getting viruses or someone hacking their accounts and getting their info.

You play with the devil you get burned. That's how I was brought up.