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Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Dan » Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:50 pm

Memorial Day 2015: Gospel Legend Carman Licciardello Rushed to Hospital After Suffering Multiple Heart Attacks in His Sleep

http://www.breathecast.com/articles/mem ... ere-28098/
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by executioner » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:05 am

Does any of this surprise you?
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Shell » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:51 pm

If you're referring to this happening when he's doing a Kickstarter campaign, I agree, no, it shouldn't be a surprise. The timing is just a little too convenient not to raise questions. We need to look at the big picture though and pray for him. Even if high profile people in ministry or music or whatever start out sincere, it's all too easy for them to fall into the trap of keeping the ministry going or bringing in the money whatever the cost and he's not alone in that by any means. I am not defending him; of course he should be held accountable, and of course it's not right, but balancing being high profile and walking the narrow path can be tricky. There is a balancing point between calling someone on sin without condemning the sinner also; we all sin and fall short.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Dan » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:56 pm

Just wanted to see what you guys thought first, I didn't want to be quick to judge. I would say I agree with you guys.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by brent » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:59 am

Who knows? Sad either way.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Mountain Man » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:36 pm

Shell said, "The timing is just a little too convenient not to raise questions."

I'm apparently missing some of the backstory here.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Shell » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:57 pm

I was referring to the way they indicated at the end of the article to "click here to support his Kickstarter campaign". I believe he was doing a Kickstarter campaign when he had his cancer diagnosis they talk about in the article and was later apparently healed from. It's been awhile though, so I don't remember all the circumstances. I don't know Carman personally and I don't have any way of knowing for sure if he has had a heart attack or not. I do have a pretty good idea from years of doing medical transcription and knowing a few people with heart problems that they would probably have a heart attack patient on oxygen, and they don't in this picture. His picture probably wouldn't be taken while he's being treated at the hospital either in most cases. It's just my take and not because I know all the circumstances. I don't have anything against Kickstarter either by the way. It's the timing I wonder about.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Carolina Petra Fan » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:16 am

I can't speak for him, but if I were having all these health problems I would be focused on spending time with my family.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Shell » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:58 pm

Carolina Petra Fan wrote:I can't speak for him, but if I were having all these health problems I would be focused on spending time with my family.
Good point. I'd focus more on getting whatever treatment I needed and doing my best to get better and focus less on posting this sort of stuff on the Internet too.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Mountain Man » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:34 am

Well, Carman always was a showman. If there was a Christian casino in Vegas, he would have been the headliner.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by brent » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:27 pm

Carolina Petra Fan wrote:I can't speak for him, but if I were having all these health problems I would be focused on spending time with my family.
Kind of hard to do that without money.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by rexreed » Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:20 pm

Mountain Man wrote:Well, Carman always was a showman. If there was a Christian casino in Vegas, he would have been the headliner.
Even in Vegas I think that you have to have some average songs. Carman never was able to record one... he is terrible.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by gman » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:53 am

rexreed wrote:
Mountain Man wrote:Well, Carman always was a showman. If there was a Christian casino in Vegas, he would have been the headliner.
Even in Vegas I think that you have to have some average songs. Carman never was able to record one... he is terrible.
Branson might be a better fit. Either way, you build it, they will come. He was a headliner at Creation some years ago. I labeled it Barney for adults. We didn't stick around, but the crowd was full of Charismatics that ate it up.
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Re: Carmen health problems, heart attacks this time

Post by Mountain Man » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:46 pm

rexreed wrote:
Mountain Man wrote:Well, Carman always was a showman. If there was a Christian casino in Vegas, he would have been the headliner.
Even in Vegas I think that you have to have some average songs. Carman never was able to record one... he is terrible.
Now that you mention it, I can't think of any really good Carman songs. Of course there's "The Champion" which was a favorite with youth group drama teams... and that's really it. "Witch's Invitation" is the only other one I'm familiar with. I can't think of anything else.
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