I would take the word of a man's son over that of his extended family any day.curt wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:55 pmAnd others from that family have other impressions. I see no point in claiming any of that to be facts we can know with certainty. And what we certainly cannot know is what Billy Graham would have thought about stuff that happened after his death.Mountain Man wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:13 amNope, it's not an opinion. It's a fact that Billy Graham voted for and supported Trump. Quoting Franklin Graham, his son:
"Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond. Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed. I have not previously shared who my father voted for in the past election, but because of this article, I feel it is necessary to share it now. My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump. He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation."
https://www.facebook.com/FranklinGraham ... ?__tn__=-R
So, like I said, people connected to him have different ideas about what he would have thought about Trump. Even if he voted for him it is no guarante that he would have continued to support him.
I'm not going to spend a lot of time debating this (in fact, this will probably be my last post on the subject here since I've discussed it ad nauseam at another more politically minded forum), but the case against Trump is somewhere between weak and non-existent. Not a single firsthand witness was able to testify that Trump did anything improper or illegal, and Gordan Sondland, the only person to testify who spoke directly to the President, said under oath that the President did not want what everybody is accusing him of wanting. In fact, the Democrat case is so weak that they're refusing to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate for adjudication and are instead sitting on them in the desperate hope that they'll be able to use articles as leverage to find evidence to support the articles.
Now whatever you may think about Trump's personal moral choices, there is nothing righteous or Christian about celebrating the Democrat party ignoring the rule of law and due process in order to run a duly elected president out of office -- and remember, the Democrats have been whooping and hollering for impeachment since before Trump was even inaugurated. As one commentator put it, if the Federal government can trample on the rights of the President of the United States, then what's to stop them from trampling on ours?