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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by brent » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:57 pm

Voting for a known loser doesn't do anyone any good, especially if the votes are private information. It's like throwing your vote away. It can actually do more harm than good making yourself feel better. It's sad, but it is true. For a long time, my vote was a vote for none-of-the-above. But, there have been some close races in the past, and enough votes were stolen/thrown out, I couldn't let the Democrats (the people who fought against civil rights, ran and perpetuated the KKK, ushered in and voted for legalized abortion, made the USA the second largest welfare state in the world, were responsible for the relocation and killing of Native American Indians, have removed God from the government's operations, etc, etc) take us further down the crapper. Don't give me the lie that the Republican and Democrat parties flipped. NOT HISTORICALLY TRUE. Only one Democrat changed parties after they lost on civil rights. Democrats love racism and enslaving people with programs, which is why those most adversely affected have voted for them. This is starting to change. Personally, I don't see how one could be an extreme left-wing liberal and be a Jesus follower at the same time, but I understand people pick and choose a political party cafeteria-style and being a conservative does not equate to being saved either.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by executioner » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:27 pm

brent wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:57 pm
Voting for a known loser doesn't do anyone any good, especially if the votes are private information. It's like throwing your vote away. It can actually do more harm than good making yourself feel better. It's sad, but it is true. For a long time, my vote was a vote for none-of-the-above. But, there have been some close races in the past, and enough votes were stolen/thrown out, I couldn't let the Democrats (the people who fought against civil rights, ran and perpetuated the KKK, ushered in and voted for legalized abortion, made the USA the second largest welfare state in the world, were responsible for the relocation and killing of Native American Indians, have removed God from the government's operations, etc, etc) take us further down the crapper. Don't give me the lie that the Republican and Democrat parties flipped. NOT HISTORICALLY TRUE. Only one Democrat changed parties after they lost on civil rights. Democrats love racism and enslaving people with programs, which is why those most adversely affected have voted for them. This is starting to change. Personally, I don't see how one could be an extreme left-wing liberal and be a Jesus follower at the same time, but I understand people pick and choose a political party cafeteria-style and being a conservative does not equate to being saved either.
So true. How can someone be believer and vote for the things posted above. All those things go completely against what the Word of God says. BTW you forgot about all the gay rights issues.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by Diehardpetrafan:) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:45 am

executioner wrote:
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So true. How can someone be believer and vote for the things posted above. All those things go completely against what the Word of God says. BTW you forgot about all the gay rights issues.
OHHH MY GOOOSH I'm so so so tired of gay people. Period.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by curt » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:40 am

executioner wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:27 pm
brent wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:57 pm
Voting for a known loser doesn't do anyone any good, especially if the votes are private information. It's like throwing your vote away. It can actually do more harm than good making yourself feel better. It's sad, but it is true. For a long time, my vote was a vote for none-of-the-above. But, there have been some close races in the past, and enough votes were stolen/thrown out, I couldn't let the Democrats (the people who fought against civil rights, ran and perpetuated the KKK, ushered in and voted for legalized abortion, made the USA the second largest welfare state in the world, were responsible for the relocation and killing of Native American Indians, have removed God from the government's operations, etc, etc) take us further down the crapper. Don't give me the lie that the Republican and Democrat parties flipped. NOT HISTORICALLY TRUE. Only one Democrat changed parties after they lost on civil rights. Democrats love racism and enslaving people with programs, which is why those most adversely affected have voted for them. This is starting to change. Personally, I don't see how one could be an extreme left-wing liberal and be a Jesus follower at the same time, but I understand people pick and choose a political party cafeteria-style and being a conservative does not equate to being saved either.
So true. How can someone be believer and vote for the things posted above. All those things go completely against what the Word of God says. BTW you forgot about all the gay rights issues.
I think the main problem is that the idea that "those things go completely against what the Word of God says" is used as an excuse for other things that go completely against what the Word of God says. No new standard has been set. Actually it has been lowered. People have given up so many principles on how to treat other human beings, on family values, truth, respectful talk about people of other races and the like. And now they try to justify it all, or make it less worse, by pointing to how bad the others are. In doing so one is certianly not pushing for higher standards. That is why I fear the current situation is just the beginning of something even worse. Unless people actually start to see the real problem.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by executioner » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:25 am

curt wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:40 am
executioner wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:27 pm
brent wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:57 pm
Voting for a known loser doesn't do anyone any good, especially if the votes are private information. It's like throwing your vote away. It can actually do more harm than good making yourself feel better. It's sad, but it is true. For a long time, my vote was a vote for none-of-the-above. But, there have been some close races in the past, and enough votes were stolen/thrown out, I couldn't let the Democrats (the people who fought against civil rights, ran and perpetuated the KKK, ushered in and voted for legalized abortion, made the USA the second largest welfare state in the world, were responsible for the relocation and killing of Native American Indians, have removed God from the government's operations, etc, etc) take us further down the crapper. Don't give me the lie that the Republican and Democrat parties flipped. NOT HISTORICALLY TRUE. Only one Democrat changed parties after they lost on civil rights. Democrats love racism and enslaving people with programs, which is why those most adversely affected have voted for them. This is starting to change. Personally, I don't see how one could be an extreme left-wing liberal and be a Jesus follower at the same time, but I understand people pick and choose a political party cafeteria-style and being a conservative does not equate to being saved either.
So true. How can someone be believer and vote for the things posted above. All those things go completely against what the Word of God says. BTW you forgot about all the gay rights issues.
I think the main problem is that the idea that "those things go completely against what the Word of God says" is used as an excuse for other things that go completely against what the Word of God says. No new standard has been set. Actually it has been lowered. People have given up so many principles on how to treat other human beings, on family values, truth, respectful talk about people of other races and the like. And now they try to justify it all, or make it less worse, by pointing to how bad the others are. In doing so one is certianly not pushing for higher standards. That is why I fear the current situation is just the beginning of something even worse. Unless people actually start to see the real problem.
But do you vote 3rd party which in most cases is even worse and no chance of winning and making the difference needed or do you go to the Democrat side to where their morals are far worse than anything Trump has ever done?
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by curt » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:25 am

I think it is certainly time to get past the point where wrongs are justified or excused with other wrongs. This has been lowering the voice of truth when it was so much needed.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by executioner » Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:09 pm

curt wrote:
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I think it is certainly time to get past the point where wrongs are justified or excused with other wrongs. This has been lowering the voice of truth when it was so much needed.
Believe me I completely understand what you are saying and yes I voted 3rd party in 2016 because I felt both Trump & Hillary were both so morally flawed I couldn't make myself support either. Now it brings us to current status and I will say Trump has done a good job with a lot of the economics things and also has put some morals in front of some of his decisions. Don't get me wrong I still think he fatally flawed but I see some good in the things he is trying to do with jobs, patriotism, and also the moral side with equality and the evil abortion agenda. Unlike Biden or any of the other Democrats I honestly believe he is trying to put America back on the right path and has our backs when it comes to Christian values. There are times when Trump will speak and say something in a speech or news conference and I will say "that is exactly what I've been trying to say all along."

I am somebody that will be voting for Trump in the fall. BTW I know of several people who voted Democrat in 2016 and in some cases has always done so that have changed their minds and will be voting for him also; one of these is a black family that will have 4 voters in the household and they see what he is trying to accomplish with the black community and is not blinded by the BLM movement.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by rexreed » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:56 pm

If only John Bolton and countless other former administration officials shared the same optimism for a second term.... You know, usually the former aids support the President that hired/appointed them. Republican party is due a cleansing and we will witness it.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by executioner » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:23 pm

rexreed wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:56 pm
If only John Bolton and countless other former administration officials shared the same optimism for a second term.... You know, usually the former aids support the President that hired/appointed them. Republican party is due a cleansing and we will witness it.
Remember when Trump said "drain the swamp"? Well he meant from both parties; They literally hate him due to the fact the system is so corrupt and he wants to clean it out. I want it cleaned completely out because I trust no one in Washington; I'm just hoping Trump takes the right path in getting it done.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by Dan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:03 pm

curt wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:25 am
I think it is certainly time to get past the point where wrongs are justified or excused with other wrongs. This has been lowering the voice of truth when it was so much needed.
You must be getting CNN in Belgium?
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by PiedPiper » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:00 pm

rexreed wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:56 pm
If only John Bolton and countless other former administration officials shared the same optimism for a second term.... You know, usually the former aids support the President that hired/appointed them. Republican party is due a cleansing and we will witness it.
In my experience, people who get fired rarely have nice things to say about their former employer...
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by brent » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:27 am

Especially when they are technically committing treason to write a book for personal gain.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by curt » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:16 pm

Well, this is good: Joe Biden, democracy and decency win a presidential election for the ages
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/t ... 146002002/

Congratulations and all the best wishes for all of you.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by brenthandy » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:10 pm

Ha. Don't congratulate us. We are one Joe is one brain fart away from being removed from office by Pelosi, thus installing the most progressive, extreme left-wing, socialist, anti-Christian woman with man hands this country could ever hate to have in the office. Republics don't last forever. This is the beginning of the end because the damage they will do will not be undone. Everyone get ready for the worst recession in history, another shutdown, and record bankruptcies and riots.
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Re: Well, this isn't good

Post by rexreed » Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:54 pm

This is actually pretty good. 4 years of a decent person will be refreshing. Finally, we will win.
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