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NOW IS THE TIME FOR CHRISTIANS TO EXODUS PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Post by WR1U » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:10 am

The Time Is Now For Exodus From Government Schools

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THE TIME IS NOW FOR EXODUS FROM GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS

By Debbie O'Hara
June 9, 2004
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Why would Christian parents send their children to government schools? Not realizing the extent of the risks involved to their well being, my children at one time attended these schools. To our shame, it was a non-Christian that asked how we as Christians could send our children to schools that denigrate all that we hold dear. It is tough today for parents to claim ignorance as the slightest research into their local school will show they heavily promote hedonism, socialism, immorality and an anti-family agenda.

Like many families, my husband and I both worked outside the home and in a sense were grateful that our children were taken care of during the day through the schools and as a bonus they were getting a "good education". In fact we felt truly fortunate that our children were in one of the top government schools in the country. We bought into an expensive home thinking we were doing it for our children. Unfortunately it only assured that Mom would have to continue working outside the home in order to make house payments. But we were in a top school district. What more could we ask for?

Busy with daily routines, we didn't realize how the world had changed since we were youngsters. Neither the academic nor the moral climate in the U.S. was anything like it was when we were growing up. (Even our own education wasn't close to the caliber of a century ago. See 8th grade test from 1895. www.goodschools.com/test.htm) We were in for a rude awakening. Our illusions were shattered when our children started hitting their teens and we realized we didn't know them. Old enough now to begin communicating their thoughts and experiences more clearly, we could see that much of their worldview was different from ours. They were looking at the world through a totally different set of lenses. How could this have happened?

Unbeknownst to us, our children were taught a belief system foreign to ours, in fact foreign to most U.S. parents. Instead of being educated with the proper tools necessary to become future leaders and citizens in the American system of self-government, they are being brainwashed into a diabolical, socialist system that is both anti-God and anti-American. Since the days of Nimrod and his infamous tower, people have been working hard toward creating an anti-God socialist world government. We have given these enemies of God the perfect opportunity to accomplish their goal through our children. Unwitting parents, along with the church, have allowed this dangerous agenda of a godless world government to come ever closer through our neglect in instructing future generations. We now see why the divine mandate was given to parents, not government, to properly instruct children. We are reaping the results of our sinful neglect. America's children are being used to build a "new world community" without God.

"When an opponent declares, 'I will not come over to your side,' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already�What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community." Adolph Hitler

"Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state." -- Adolph Hitler

Hitler knew the way to his "new community" was through the children. Every despot throughout history realized that to gain control over their citizens they needed to control the textbooks. They don't care what we "old folks" think as long as they can mold the minds of the young.

On October 30, 2003, while announcing his pleasure at the return of the United States to membership in UNESCO, our global school board, U.S. Secretary of Education, Rod Paige, stated "Our governments have entrusted us with the responsibility of preparing our children to become citizens of the world."

How are educators preparing our children to become world citizens? By deliberately dumbing them down so they will not have the knowledge to be a self-governing people. After 13 years of government school many children graduate basically illiterate. With the billions of dollars we are spending on education, this is not any accident. I acknowledge that most teachers and school administrators want what is best for children and do not themselves understand what's wrong with education. They have been duped like the rest. This dumbed-down curriculum is coming from the top levels of government. For a well documented, clear chronology of events in the restructuring of education, read "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by Charlotte Iserbyt. Iserbyt served as Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Education Research and Improvement, U.S. Dept. of Education, during the first Reagan Administration. Her unimpeachable evidence shows that for decades children have been dumbed down intentionally to prepare them for world government. Her extensive documentation comes from the education community's own sources. International, national, regional, state and local plans for the transformation of American society through the education system is carefully detailed. You will see that a dumbed-down global workforce is the goal.

Worse than the dumbing down of academics is the moral side of this equation. Teaching the great lie, evolution, has stripped children of any significance or purpose in life. As creatures of chance with no higher authority than man, should we be surprised when our kids act like the animals we tell them they are? Should we be surprised in the steady increase in rebellion against authority, unwillingness to work, homosexuality, divorce, pornography, suicide, and lawlessness, just to name a few? Many Christians have fallen for this lie thinking they can square evolution with the Bible, but it is impossible. If God doesn't mean what he says in Genesis, how can we believe anything in Scripture? If any falsity is found, the Bible is a worthless book not worthy of our trust.

A much greater leap of faith is necessary to believe in evolution than in creation, yet evolution is taught as fact in government schools. There is no evidence for life being created from non-life or for the miracle of DNA to come about by itself. While we see variety among "kinds", there is no evidence that one "kind" changes to another "kind". "And God said, 'Let the land produce living creatures according to their kind�"Genesis 1:24. Kinds are limited by their gene pool. Where could new information come from except by a designer? (For a plethora of lies in the textbooks check out www.drdino.com) Unfortunately the myth of evolution must be perpetuated because a Designer is anathema to the plans for a "new society".

If evolution was even a workable theory, why would known lies be in the textbooks? Because there is NO scientific evidence for upward evolution. Evolution is our state religion and so must be taught as fact. That is why there is no contradictory teaching allowed. Teachers cannot even mention any problems with this theory. Students who question it will be silenced. It can't be admitted that evolution is faith just like creation. In true science someone has to be there to test and observe. Evolutionists talk about millions and billions of years ago. Were they there? We have a Book written by Someone who says He was there. True science has never contradicted Scripture. But to have students believe the Bible does not fit into the "new" plans.

No debate of evolution can take place by students in the classroom because its fatal flaws must remain hidden. We're told our children are taught "critical thinking" but in fact they are getting Soviet-style indoctrination. The teaching of evolution is critical to the "New World Order" crowd because it is the foundation on which our "new world" is being built. The slightest hint of God is directly opposed to the Marxist theology running rampant on school campuses. With God there is an absolute, never- changing morality. Evolution is the foundation of Socialist/Communist ideology where there is nothing outside their code of morality if it is for the good of their cause, which is of course a Socialist/Communist community. When structuring a "new society", stealing, lying, raping, and killing are all moral values when working toward this goal. We have seen the evolutionist morality in action in Communist China, Cuba, Cambodia, Ukraine, etc. We have also seen the results of this morality at work here in America as we become an increasingly violent society. Our children are being brainwashed into an anti-God philosophy where everything is moral in the struggle for getting rid of the "old morality" in order to bring about the "new society".

Is this the kind of education we desire for our children? Isn't it time Christians take a mass exodus from these government schools? I was thrilled when I heard about a resolution that supporters hope will make it to the floor of the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) scheduled June 13-15. This resolution encourages members of the Convention and officers and members of their associated churches to remove their children from government schools. Churches are called upon to counsel parents regarding their obligation to provide a Christian education for their children.

A resolution co-sponsor stated "the government schools are killing our children morally, spiritually and academically." He calls it "spiritual blindness" that 85 percent of Christians send their children to government schools. The resolution is full of Scriptural references as to why this measure is necessary. Read the resolution. I encourage those of you who read this resolution to get it into the hands of your Christian friends, pastors, and other religious leaders. This battle does not just belong to the Baptists. Whether this is won or lost at the Baptist Convention, this resolve should be made by Christians everywhere. Please support this resolution by diligent prayer and by sending its message far and wide.

And by all means, get your children out of these hedonistic, socialist training camps called government schools!

� 2004 Debbie O'Hara - All Rights Reserved

Debbie O'Hara is a homemaker, wife and mother of eight children. During her business career she held a position in management in the aerospace industry in Southern California. She left the business world to become a full time mother. She is an avid reader, and did the necessary research to provide a comprehensive homeschool curriculum for her children. This led her to closely examine the political direction our country has been following. Debbie and her children are now active in the political process both locally and nationally. Debbie is a contributing writer to www.NewsWithViews.com. E-Mail: [email protected]
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Post by Shell » Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:28 am

That's pretty scary. Getting the kids out of public school would be an option. Their source for getting money from the state would be cut off that way, and maybe they would wake up if they were hit in the pocketbook. But if enough parents got together and said they wanted some say so about what was taught in schools, it might change things. There are no easy answers, and it would be a long battle. But parents do have the right to have some say so in their kid's classroom curriculum.
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Post by WR1U » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:42 pm

I am just so thankful to the Lord for providing the resources for my girls to go to christian school.
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Post by epdc » Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:42 pm

I don`t think is right to take kids out of public school. We are in the world, we suppose to be a light and we won`t be able to be a light if we are "separate" in a christian school. That`s why we go to church for learning from God, that`s why there are teen groups in church and thap`s why parents have to know the word and teach them to their kids. We can`t expect school educate them completely, parents and church has to cooperate in that.

If the kids are taught well in church and at home then they won`t fall in this false knowledge taught in school. We can`t close our children of talking with nonchristian people, then how come they are gonna be a light if their only friends are christian from the christian school?.

Don`t get me wrong, I`m happy to see there are christians schools, we have two in my city and are a big blessing, I have seen it. But closing all christians in a christian world. In any case parents should get together and ask to the authorities to change the school programm (I know it sounds easy but is not).

And also, I don`t know if is like that in USA but here in M�xico christian schools are private and cost money so many people can`t afford them.
Yeah, what they learn in school is important but it really depends of what they learn at home and church to make them strong and don`t fall in the goverment lies. I have known people that goes to a christian school but are not strong in their faith at all, why? because they have to live that at home too, not just at school.
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Post by BigD » Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:56 pm

Actually, I think most of society should leave public schools; the quality of education and the lack of morals in teaching and administration isn't good for anyone. I've seen so many stupid stories of what goes on in public schools that I'm disgusted with them-of teachers getting bullied by parents to get their way, and the disease of political correctness.
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Post by Shell » Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:47 pm

You have a valid point Matthew, but things have changed since I was in high school 20+ (horrors!!! :D ) years ago, and probably since you were in high school too, and you're younger than I am. Things are much more liberal now than they used to be, and there's much more pressure to conform to what's being taught in public school now. I thought a lot of the stuff I learned about in high school was garbage, but I never felt pressured that I actually had to accept it. Kids need to be taught what to watch out for and how to filter through the garbage that's out there if they're going to be in public school.

That being said, Christian schools aren't perfect either. I went to a Christian school for a year when I first started college and some of the most idiotic people I've ever met went to that school. :P
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Post by separateunion » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:01 pm

Matthew RJ wrote:I value my secular education (granted in a different system than american schools).

As Jesus said,

"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." Matthew 5:13-16
Putting your children in a public school is not being the salt of the earth, it's stupidity. I meet so many people who think that their children are going to make a huge Christian impact on the school, but the opposite always happens: the public school makes an impact on the child. Besides, it's just plain moronic to sacrifice your child's education (which includes more than academics, but also such things morality and how to live), which the Bible calls upon the parents and not the state to provide anyways, in false hopes that your child might make an impact on a world who's pressures are most likely stronger than your child's faith at the elementary and high school ages.
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Post by LexingtonPethead » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:36 pm

I agree that children growing up in a Christian home have no business in public schools.

Though it may be possible for a child to be a light in a dark world, WHY would you choose to put impressionable, perhaps even unsuspecting children in harm's way intellectually and philosophically?

These are formative years... the adult they will grow to be is still being shaped. Does anyone really think their child won't be adversely affected by the depraved, permissive and socialistic environment that is promoted? I don't think there is any amount of preparation a parent can do to ready their child against that kind of storm so early in life.

Though Christian schools aren't perfect, at least, hopefully, the basic values of Christianity will be exemplified. Though morality cannot be imparted to any person, a Godly example can. This is where a parent must choose the school and/or method of education very carefully.

Now, I realize that some cannot afford Christian school, nor is everyone cut out to do homeschooling. In these instances, parents simply do the best they can, possibly by looking into funding of some sort..
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Post by separateunion » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:45 pm

Matthew RJ wrote:
Putting your children in a public school is not being the salt of the earth, it's stupidity. ... Besides, it's just plain moronic ...
insults fly & I'll leave this subject for you to kick around.
If the truth is an insult, I'm not going to apologize. I'm getting so sick of the church being so afraid of insulting others and taking the truth as an insult. No wonder Christian music is going down the tubes: no one has the guts to speak the truth because they're all so afraid of hurting someone's feelings.
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Re: once again

Post by Michael » Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:14 am

separateunion wrote:If the truth is an insult, I'm not going to apologize.
I don't know... it seems to me you could have said "a mistake" instead of "stupidity" and still gotten your point across. Not that I'm not guilty of mudslinging on the Zone from time to time (oh yeah, you guys have definitely seen it!), but I also know that confrontational language like that is best saved for times when you can't get your point across any other way. I think everyone reading this thread is doing it because they care about their kids; we're on the same side here, and calling people names will only hurt their feelings and not change their minds.

For the record, I used to be of the "salt of the earth" school of thought... I went to public school in K-12 and then a Christian university, and I felt like I got the best of both worlds. Unfortunatley, the world has changed a lot... I just turned 34 and my little boy is 4, and in 30 years things are a lot different. Many public schools are not just bad... they're downright dangerous! But our financial situation is such that it will be hard to afford Christian school, so we're praying and believing God's Word that says He will provide our needs. For people who can't afford Christian school at all or who are out of range of one and who cannot home-school, God's Word also says He will provide protection in dangerous places.

I do think kids can have an impact on their own public schools. But in the long run, morality and spirituality are the parents' responsibility. I don't think it's the school's responsibility to teach morality; schools have had to get that way, though, because the parents don't do it and amoral kids are destructive to their environment (the school campus). If you teach your kids the Bible every chance you get, they can thrive even in a public school if they have to. Just because you're not home schooling doesn't mean you're not schooling. :)
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Post by LexingtonPethead » Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:10 am

Excellent ideas, Michael.

You're right about how public schools have had to get into the business of teaching morality because too many parents fail to teach it at home.

However, I doubt that it's effective since kids who are amoral generally don't respect authority, especially from teachers. Any success in this area is probably situational and involves an outstanding teacher with uncanny abilities to reach wayward children. Teachers like this who care enough to make a difference are probably rare today.

I also agree that a child coming from a Christian home can make it in public schools, depending on the public school, and depending on how faithful the parents are in instilling Christian values into their children. There is such a broad range of public schools and such a broad range of parental modeling that it's all situational. This is where we have to depend on God for direction and discernment.

Having said that, I still believe that when finances allow, children are always better off in Christian schools. When dealing with public schools, you're trying to figure out how to make the best of a bad or potentially bad situation. When dealing with Christian schools, you're trying to make the best choice between them.

And in either situation, Michael is right, parents still need to be "schooling" at home and not depending on Christian / public schools to do their job of parenting for them.
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Post by LexingtonPethead » Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:31 am

I understand why Sep said what he did. I often have to contain that same attitude myself, as I have a tendency to not mince words, especially on topics where Christians seem to take a beating, either by being politically correct or by not taking a stand for doing the right thing even when it's not popular.

In America, we are literally witnessing the de-Christianization of our culture. If I think about it too long, I get very angry, and I want to strike out. This is a hard thing to control when you see other Christians compromise what they believe when they should stand their ground.

Public schools teach a permissive, liberal, and secular way of thinking that goes against all that we believe as Christians. That's why this can be such an explosive topic.
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Re: truth in love?

Post by separateunion » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:01 pm

Matthew RJ wrote:
If the truth is an insult, I'm not going to apologize. I'm getting so sick of the church being so afraid of insulting others and taking the truth as an insult. No wonder Christian music is going down the tubes: no one has the guts to speak the truth because they're all so afraid of hurting someone's feelings.
There is a way to respectfully disagree. Using stupid and moronic does not show respect for a different view nor does it reflect the truth as being spoken in love.
You still don't seem to get the jist of my post. I'm not trying to insult, I'm just calling a spade a spade. If you're taking it as an insult, maybe you need to grow some thicker skin.

You will notice I did not call anyone specific a moron or stupid. I called it stupidity and moronic to send your child to a public school. There's a huge difference.

Sending your kids to public school is not a mistake, it is stupidity. I'm not going to water down the truth just so someone's feelings aren't hurt.
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Post by LexingtonPethead » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:08 pm

I gotta give you credit for donning your flame-suit before posting... :lol:

Amazing how fires erupt around here... :lol:
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Post by Shell » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:38 pm

Mistakes usually are stupid. Or at least because of bad judgment or ignorance. And none of us are immune to it. :D

Yeah, SU doesn't mince words. At least you know where you stand with him. :lol: And he's been around long enough to know when to put on his flame suit.
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