List some myths about the Bible here.

[brent]

I should have used Children of God instead of Christians, because they were not called that yet, but then again, he did lay some ground work for persecution of future Christians, by the propogation of his gods and inclusiveness of religions.

In war I was thinking of the efforts of 330-333.

While he was historically a "moral" person, he did kill a crap load of people, in his attemps to conquer the world. He was referenced in Islamic scripture as being a good guy

Like I said before, I am not disputing that God does have believers in the Roman Empire. I am not disputing that some good things occur/occured. All I am pointing out is the history and the future, which is set in stone in scripture, and that there is proof in scripture that the phenom that I mentioned occurs many, many times.

[charl]

Isn't this fun?:D

I would not say Alexandros was moral-certainly not by our standards-and a bit of an upstart even by theirs. His method of taking prisoners was brilliant though-and I suppose we would consider it a better alternative to the eastern empires. But no I wouldn't be much of a champion for his morality.

I guess the jist of my argument is simply that I cannot accept Alexandrian origin as being good enough to exclude certain texts as 'illigitimate', especially since Alexandria was a centre for knowledge and learning (both good and bad) in the ancient world. There's really no call for this discrimination-and indeed, perhaps Alexandria is one of the 'five cities' Isaiah prophesied, especially given it's prominence in the early church.
Anyway, if you want to see a truely bowdlerized version of the bible, check out Marcion. It was like Luke and a bunch of crap. The Alexandrian texts will look fabulous.

I do agree that history has been, and continues to be, cyclical in nature. Politically we seem to be on the same precipice as the Republic at the end. I wonder and fear who will be declared Caesar.

[Petra_Pete]

Actually, Hell is eternal. Revelation makes mention of Death and Hell being thrown into the Lake of Fire which is eternal. But I am a bit too tired now to get into it (Petra concert in London, ON. was simply amazing!).

But back to the original topic for this thread. The myth that I usually hear is that the Bible says that "money is the root of all evil." More of a misquote rather than a myth. ("Root of all KINDS of evil.")

[charl]

Some new (somewhat peripheral) things to chew on.

Cherubs-what were these things? Are what we call griffins and sphinxes really Cherubs? Does this mean the Devil looks more like a bird than a goat?

And were the seraphs of Isaiah dazzling lights which burned the eye, or were they giant snakes? If so, where did they get hands?

Is there a gap between the 69th and 70th sevens of Daniel which Daniel does not acknowledge? If so, why does excluding the gap bring one almost exactly to the date of the beginning of Christ's ministry?

Why does everyone say the Noahic account is identical to Gilgamesh when it's not? Guy-flood-destruction-similarities end. They ALL have that part.

Did Barnabus write Hebrews? Wouldn't it be cool if he did?

Why do people say that when the Isrealites worshiped the golden calf, they were forsaking the LORD? They were just worshipping him in a heretical manner.

Why do people say that some are punished for not accepting Christ? Are they not rather punished for being wicked sinners?

And as for Gehenna, it is not interchangeable with Sheol, as Hades is not interchangeable with Tartarus. Remember Sisyphus? You know, the guy who was destined to push that boulder up that hill forever...?

[Jonathan]

That homosexuality is somehow wrong.

[brent]

Big myth:

Jesus was crucified on Good Friday. Had to be Wednesday, as they had High Sabbath, which was not the same as the normal sabbath (Saturday, not Sunday). Jesus was in the ground for three days and three nights.

Previously I believed that this was due to the Roman way of accounting for time served of prisoners. If someone was in jail for an hour of one day, that counted as an hour. But that can't be correct even, because there would not have been enough time to shop for linen and spices to prep the body, pull it from the cross, transport it, go plea for the body from government, wait for the soldier to return with verification that Christ was dead, etc.

Further study of the Passover, the numbering of the days, etc has helped me see the truth. There is a document here that can explain it better than I can:

http://logosresourcepages.org/Holidays/good_friday.htm

Enjoy.

[charl]

hmm yeah, as long as you don't count the explicit verses about it.

Re good Friday:
They may indeed be correct, but not it's convincing me-especially since the disciples should have then had enough time to find somewhere to put the body, yet they still put him in someone else's tomb.
Some say it was a Thursday because of the differences in opinion about Passover. However, this is the first I've heard of a Wednesday explanation, and it seems to me an attempt to place a modern reckoning of time into the account. There is also a bit too much assuming and conjecture for my taste.


This is much like the early debates about Easter. Did it matter if the resurrection was celebrated every Sunday, once a year on the day (a Sunday) or once a year on the actual date? I think it was good to ultimately standardise it.

[charl]

No one wants to argue with me anymore? Brent?

[brent]

Too busy and too wiped out.

Band rehearsal, church business, mixing a Christmas album, having a hard drive crap out. Awwww Nuts!

[Petrapraise]

How about "can God create a rock so big He can't move it"

[Jonathan]

I hope this was a joke:

When have you ever known me to say anything outside the realm of complete sincerity?