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It's All Hallows Eve, and if that doesn't scare you....

Post by calicowriter » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:42 pm

... it's also Sue's birthday! :lol:

Hope it was a good one! 8)
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Re: It's All Hallows Eve, and if that doesn't scare you....

Post by MineField » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:52 pm

calicowriter wrote:... it's also Sue's birthday! :lol:

Hope it was a good one! 8)
May the Lord bless you on your birthday Sue! :D

It would be a cool B-Day gift to have John and Bob perform a ROCKED-OUT Petra version of "Happy Birthday To You!" wouldn't it? :wink:
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Post by Shell » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:02 pm

Happy birthday Sue...Hope you have a good day. Yeah, she gets some teasing about having a Halloween birthday. :D
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Post by brent » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:02 pm

All Saint's Day has been commercialized to be something that it was not intended to be. Sad.

Anyway. It is also my daughter Allison and my father-in-law George's birthday.

Happy 28th b-day Sue.
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Post by calicowriter » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:18 am

Actually, All Saints Day is November 1st.

Halloween has become synonymous with candy, costumes, scary stuff, witches, ghosts and pumpkins. But do you know the Christian connection to the holiday?

The true origins of Halloween lie with the ancient Celtic tribes who lived in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Brittany. For the Celts, November 1 marked the beginning of a new year and the coming of winter. The night before the new year, they celebrated the festival of Samhain, Lord of the Dead. During this festival, Celts believed the souls of the dead�including ghosts, goblins and witches�returned to mingle with the living. In order to scare away the evil spirits, people would wear masks and light bonfires.

When the Romans conquered the Celts, they added their own touches to the Samhain festival, such as making centerpieces out of apples and nuts for Pomona, the Roman goddess of the orchards. The Romans also bobbed for apples and drank cider.

In 835, Pope Gregory IV moved the celebration for all the martyrs (later all saints) from May 13 to November 1. The night before became known as All Hallow�s Even or �holy evening.� Eventually the name was shortened to the current Halloween. On November 2, the Church celebrates All Souls Day.

The purpose of these feasts is to remember those who have died, whether they are officially recognized by the Church as saints or not. It is a celebration of the �communion of saints,� which reminds us that the Church is not bound by space or time.
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Post by brent » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:26 pm

calicowriter wrote:Actually, All Saints Day is November 1st.

Halloween has become synonymous with candy, costumes, scary stuff, witches, ghosts and pumpkins. But do you know the Christian connection to the holiday?

The true origins of Halloween lie with the ancient Celtic tribes who lived in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Brittany. For the Celts, November 1 marked the beginning of a new year and the coming of winter. The night before the new year, they celebrated the festival of Samhain, Lord of the Dead. During this festival, Celts believed the souls of the dead�including ghosts, goblins and witches�returned to mingle with the living. In order to scare away the evil spirits, people would wear masks and light bonfires.

When the Romans conquered the Celts, they added their own touches to the Samhain festival, such as making centerpieces out of apples and nuts for Pomona, the Roman goddess of the orchards. The Romans also bobbed for apples and drank cider.

In 835, Pope Gregory IV moved the celebration for all the martyrs (later all saints) from May 13 to November 1. The night before became known as All Hallow�s Even or �holy evening.� Eventually the name was shortened to the current Halloween. On November 2, the Church celebrates All Souls Day.

The purpose of these feasts is to remember those who have died, whether they are officially recognized by the Church as saints or not. It is a celebration of the �communion of saints,� which reminds us that the Church is not bound by space or time.
Yes, All Saint's Day is the 1st. But if you also study the history of the day, the "church" holidays followed the tradition of the Jews, which is 6 to 6, not 12 to 12.

That aside, my point remains, that the world, actually the US, has made such a big counter holiday, for the original Christian observance. Even though the counter holiday comes on the eve of All Saints Day, I think it makes the point that men put themselves before God.
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Post by Schlittism33 » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:28 pm

Wow! Interesting stuff there Bridget!!! A good little history lesson for the day :wink: I didnt know it was Sue's Birthday!!!!

HAPPY (late) BIRTHDAY SUE ! ! ! ! You must be what?? 23...24 now??? :roll: :D

Hope it was a good one!


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Post by charl » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:05 pm

Oct 31 is Reformation Day.

Reformation Day!

Lucky Sue to share a date with the 95 theses. Hope you enjoyed it.
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Post by sue d. » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:16 pm

Thank you for the bday wishes, all! Yes, I had a good day - spent most of it at work! lol!

Nice history lesson... funny, my sister & I were just talking about Halloween and how it got started - neither one of us knew for sure. Now we know.

A rockin' rendition of "Happy Birthday".... kinda like "Jingle Bell Rock?" I'd take it if my phone rang!

But my doorbell rang instead - and I got a really pretty flower basket from John & Dorla. It was a very nice surprise.

All in all - it was a good day (especially since I'm NOT 50 yet).

...... (and btw - I'm 29 (again)) :wink:
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Post by MineField » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:27 pm

That was very thoughtful of them to send you flowers on your B-Day! :P I am glad you had a good one Sue! Hey Sue, here is a funny thought...from now on, whenever you have a B-Day...you will never get any older, you will always stay at the age of 29! :lol: Atleast that is what my mother tells me each year on her B-Day! I will ask her...so how old are you this year? And she will always say "29"! I'm not getting any older! :wink:
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Post by sue d. » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:39 am

Yes, I love flowers... plants.... trees.... my house has them all - INSIDE! lol!

In fact, my trees are getting too big - I don't know what to do with them; they take up too much space, but I love 'em.

I used to go up to age 30, then work back down. then up again... so I'm probably in the vicinity of 27 or so by now.... :wink:
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Post by epdc » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:41 pm

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW wish John would do that to me hahahahaha sigh, you privileged girl :P

here in mexico dn�t celebrate halloween, we decorate schools and stores but we don�t celebrate, maybe we make a party in the schools with kids wearing costumes but is like a tradition to do that, we don�t talk about halloween or either go to ask for candies.

what we do celebrate is the dead people�s day (dia de muertos) and in the schools the students make altars dedicated to someone who died (in the altar they put the favorite food of the person, a picture and decorations ya know), some people go to the cementery and do the same thing. this tradition comes from the aztecs ya know, where they believed that on november 2(well not "november two" hahahaha but on those days) that dead people would come to visit so they would put and stuff on an altar dedicated to that person so it could eat and drink water and stuff.
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Post by sue d. » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:05 am

Interesting, all these related traditions and customs.

For me - I'll be happy with a "flowers on birthday" tradition.
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