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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by brent » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:48 am

I am surprised Obama has not named a GM Czar. Maybe that is what he can do. Name Czars for every Fortune 500 and 100 company to really show Americans how the American dream needs to be transformed. I can't wait for his Church Czar.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:50 am

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rexreed wrote:Too bad the rest of the world has an effect on us just as we do on them. Global economy remember? How did "no child left behind" ruin the job market? Usually education helps the populace, it isn't free but in the end we are supposed to benefit. The two wars cost more than TARP, No child, prescription drugs (who complains about that one?) and the bailouts.
No child left behind has ruined school districts and dropped the overall performance of the US education system. It has taken good schools with a higher percentage of top tier graduating students and dumbed them down with kids that do not need or deserve to be there. If you want a classic example, look at the performance and social welfare or Tulsa Public Schools before and after. Before, the schools were healthier. After, they have become a less than desirable district, now having to enforce dress codes to discourage gang colors being worn. There is a laundry list of problems now.

NCLB makes one school's or community's problems everyone's problems. We cannot expect one approach of an educational system to meet the needs of all students in a town/city. All cultures have differing needs. Neighborhoods must be able to have their own culture, their own people from their community, their own parents cooperating, and their own approach to the curriculum, etc.

My wife teaches in a Title I school, which has a very large percentage of poor kids, mostly illegal and legal hispanics, indians, africans and then whites.
There is no way that the same programs and approaches used by her school would be appropriate for a high-end school on the other side of town. All NCHLB has done is caused successful, educated, well performing families to take their money, residence and influence elsewhere. NCLB DOES change the geographic landscape of towns! I see it! That effects the local economy and thus affects the jobs. I can show you a part of the town I live in that is dying right now because of all of this type of stuff.
The Dept of Education needs to be shut down and I guess you could send all those people to GM dealerships to work; the states need complete control over the public school system and yet while I don't envy the teacher nowadays I am one to believe for the most part the teachers, principals, and adminstrators are all overpaid. The average pay for a first year teacher in Texas is 54k per year, plus benefits in one of the best retirement plans that makes post office workers look poor. There are some teachers that are making 90k-95k per year because of service time. All I see when I drive through a teacher's parking lot at schools are 40k+ vehicles and most of them are able to retire with complete, full, and lifetime benefits after 30 years of service which in most cases have them retiring before the age of 55, and this is all before I start talking about their 15 weeks worth of vacations every year with a Mon-Fri 40 hr work week.
My 16 yr old son had an engineering teacher this past year who with 5 yrs of service without missing a day get a 5k Rolex watch from the district; why couldn't this money be poured into some type of educational fund? When I was in school public education meant free public education, now us parents have to fork out the money for sports uniforms, band instruments, and a host of other things that my $4,100 per year school district tax for some odd reason is not enough to cover. This past school year all of us parents were pressured into giving a $100 donation into refurbishing the school library. I could go on an on, but my point is the public school system is horrible mismanaged system that we are tax payers have to pour more & more money into every year just to keep the employees(teachers, admins) in their nice cars and the buildings up to par.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:54 am

brent wrote:I am surprised Obama has not named a GM Czar. Maybe that is what he can do. Name Czars for every Fortune 500 and 100 company to really show Americans how the American dream needs to be transformed. I can't wait for his Church Czar.
As soon as the election is over the feds will sell off their share of GM and watch with in 5 yrs GM will be at our doorstep again asking for a bailout.

Rev. Wright(O's mentor) would be a great church Czar don't you think?
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by rexreed » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:02 am

executioner wrote:
brent wrote:
rexreed wrote:Too bad the rest of the world has an effect on us just as we do on them. Global economy remember? How did "no child left behind" ruin the job market? Usually education helps the populace, it isn't free but in the end we are supposed to benefit. The two wars cost more than TARP, No child, prescription drugs (who complains about that one?) and the bailouts.
No child left behind has ruined school districts and dropped the overall performance of the US education system. It has taken good schools with a higher percentage of top tier graduating students and dumbed them down with kids that do not need or deserve to be there. If you want a classic example, look at the performance and social welfare or Tulsa Public Schools before and after. Before, the schools were healthier. After, they have become a less than desirable district, now having to enforce dress codes to discourage gang colors being worn. There is a laundry list of problems now.

NCLB makes one school's or community's problems everyone's problems. We cannot expect one approach of an educational system to meet the needs of all students in a town/city. All cultures have differing needs. Neighborhoods must be able to have their own culture, their own people from their community, their own parents cooperating, and their own approach to the curriculum, etc.

My wife teaches in a Title I school, which has a very large percentage of poor kids, mostly illegal and legal hispanics, indians, africans and then whites.
There is no way that the same programs and approaches used by her school would be appropriate for a high-end school on the other side of town. All NCHLB has done is caused successful, educated, well performing families to take their money, residence and influence elsewhere. NCLB DOES change the geographic landscape of towns! I see it! That effects the local economy and thus affects the jobs. I can show you a part of the town I live in that is dying right now because of all of this type of stuff.
The Dept of Education needs to be shut down and I guess you could send all those people to GM dealerships to work; the states need complete control over the public school system and yet while I don't envy the teacher nowadays I am one to believe for the most part the teachers, principals, and adminstrators are all overpaid. The average pay for a first year teacher in Texas is 54k per year, plus benefits in one of the best retirement plans that makes post office workers look poor. There are some teachers that are making 90k-95k per year because of service time. All I see when I drive through a teacher's parking lot at schools are 40k+ vehicles and most of them are able to retire with complete, full, and lifetime benefits after 30 years of service which in most cases have them retiring before the age of 55, and this is all before I start talking about their 15 weeks worth of vacations every year with a Mon-Fri 40 hr work week.
My 16 yr old son had an engineering teacher this past year who with 5 yrs of service without missing a day get a 5k Rolex watch from the district; why couldn't this money be poured into some type of educational fund? When I was in school public education meant free public education, now us parents have to fork out the money for sports uniforms, band instruments, and a host of other things that my $4,100 per year school district tax for some odd reason is not enough to cover. This past school year all of us parents were pressured into giving a $100 donation into refurbishing the school library. I could go on an on, but my point is the public school system is horrible mismanaged system that we are tax payers have to pour more & more money into every year just to keep the employees(teachers, admins) in their nice cars and the buildings up to par.
Yeah, public education is a crock and should be stopped.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by gman » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:52 pm

The federal gov't should get out of education and leave it to the states. When states have to go to the federal Gov't for money to fund budget gaps in education, too much money is being spent somewhere.
On a side note, you have unions, public sector especially where the membership complains about having to contribute anything toward their health insurance, or having to contribute more. I saw a hiring sign on a McDonald's drive thru window last night advertising that would you get health insurance on your first day of work, and the company would contribute $10 toward the premium. Does that mean the employees are basically paying full freight for their insurance? If that's the case, they're at least learning how to live in what used to be the real world.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:27 am

gman wrote:The federal gov't should get out of education and leave it to the states. When states have to go to the federal Gov't for money to fund budget gaps in education, too much money is being spent somewhere.
On a side note, you have unions, public sector especially where the membership complains about having to contribute anything toward their health insurance, or having to contribute more. I saw a hiring sign on a McDonald's drive thru window last night advertising that would you get health insurance on your first day of work, and the company would contribute $10 toward the premium. Does that mean the employees are basically paying full freight for their insurance? If that's the case, they're at least learning how to live in what used to be the real world.
The monthly prem for the employee is probably around $50 and the insurance is real basic and most likely is just for your routine checkups and minor illness. Most of these have no hospital coverage, but might have something for ER with a sizable deductable.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by rexreed » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:31 pm

A lot of companies claim health benefits but they end up like executioner said. Sure you can call it insurance but God help you if you rely on it and ANYTHING beyond a cold comes a knockin.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:46 am

rexreed wrote:A lot of companies claim health benefits but they end up like executioner said. Sure you can call it insurance but God help you if you rely on it and ANYTHING beyond a cold comes a knockin.

I think this is what private healthcare is going to be like if and when Obamacare is applied; O is going to make it that you will have no choice but to go for the Federal Government Care package; I heard somewhere(I'm not sure they were serious) but once Obamacare is completely embedded that they plan on going after Life Insurance and car Insurance in the same manner. BTW we received a notice from our family Physican that they we would not be covered if we choose to the Federal Government Care Package which is in the effect Obamacare.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:17 am

rexreed wrote:A lot of companies claim health benefits but they end up like executioner said. Sure you can call it insurance but God help you if you rely on it and ANYTHING beyond a cold comes a knockin.
Walmart is the one company that started these low cost min coverage policies and most fast food chains, and other box retail stores have followed, my understanding is that once Obamacare is completely applied policies like this will be disolved.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:21 am

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gman wrote:I believe we are now in a world of an American system of Gov't versus a Communist system, and that many average Democrats, both politicians and regular folks, don't even realize it.
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Sorry, gman, but you can't be serious about this. Please go and study European welfare systems and compare these to the American system and communism. You will find that the American system and communism are completely opposed to each other and that what you consider to be a communist system, is more comparable to the European welfare system (which is social *gasp* it almost sounds like socialist). There might be some people who have slightly communistic points of view, but American mentality in general is too much opposed to the idea of communism to ever run the risk of turning into a communist system. Through the cold war you have been brainwashed into a fear of communism in such a way that if someone calls something communist or socialist it's enough to scare you to death, because you have no idea what communism or socialism looks like.
If they are so oppose to it then why will they be voting for a Communist(Obama) is this election in November.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by gman » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:59 am

Exactly. The guy has a lot of communists and communist/socialist/marxist ideas in his past. Does that matter? If you vote for him, do you support such ideas? Do you not realize he holds those ideas? Or do you think it's some big conspiracy? Shoot the no doubt racist messenger.
Wasn't McDonald's one of many companies that was granted an exemption from Obamacare? If you need an exemption from utopia, it can't be utopia.
Wait, I forget that it can be. We make our own truth and our own reality now.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:15 am

gman wrote:Exactly. The guy has a lot of communists and communist/socialist/marxist ideas in his past. Does that matter? If you vote for him, do you support such ideas? Do you not realize he holds those ideas? Or do you think it's some big conspiracy? Shoot the no doubt racist messenger.
Wasn't McDonald's one of many companies that was granted an exemption from Obamacare? If you need an exemption from utopia, it can't be utopia.
Wait, I forget that it can be. We make our own truth and our own reality now.

I think most think everything that is said about Obama's past is conspiracy because if they believed it then why would they still vote for him?
I'm not a BIRTHER, but I do think there is something wrong with the birth certificate, because what he made public last year was just a birth annoucement and not the actual official document.
I do think though that the reason behind him not wanting to release his college transcripts has to do with him receiving foreign aid for college and would mean 2 things 1. He is foreign and at the time was not a U.S. citizen. 2. He filed for foreign aid as a foreign student under a false name(Barry Seortio) and in essence just committed 2 counts of fraud and because the college transcripts are legally considered federal documents he would have served several years of jail time in federal prison if convicted.
Another item that concerns many is his SSN being filed in Massachusetts and not where he said he was born(Hawaii). According to federal law you have to legally reside in the state in order to obtain a SSN in that state. Barack Obama has never legally lived in Massachusetts only Barry Seortio has. Barack Obama's SSN should have been obtained via the state of Hawaii which they have shown otherwise.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by gman » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:10 am

The story that's blowing up right now is that people who were students at Columbia when he was supposedly there don't recall seeing him there, or taking any classes with him. Also, it was mentioned that someone from Breitbart is currently in Indonesia doing some investigation, and they are reporting that it is absolute verifiable fact that Obama was an Indonesian citizen while he was in school there.
There's so much going on, it's just time to clean house.
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Re: The Communist by Paul Kengor

Post by executioner » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:47 am

Those college students that have said that they didn't see Obama are over 400 & counting and all were political science majors at the time that Obama claims he attended; unlike Obama all of them have legally verified that they actually enrolled & attended school.

I have alot of questions because if any of these things are even half way true, how did he get to become president much less a state senator? Where & how was the vetting process done? Who did this process? Isn't this done like it is for VP or Supreme Court Judge?
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