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Live DVDs, i.e, CITAS

Post by calicowriter » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:36 pm

OK, I am going to state what will probably be an unpopular opinion, but what the heck? I don't appear to be overly popular around here anyway. :)

How long was Greg with Petra? Five or six years? John has been a part of Petra for almost 20 years now, 4 times as long. I know John is a humble guy and truly appreciates all that Petra was before he joined, but come on! The guy has to have some ego in him or he would not be able to get onstage and do what he does as well as he does. To re-release CITAS by anyone reputable is going to entail promotion. Is it really fair to expect John (and Greg and Paul for that matter) to invest time in that endeavor? To have to hear about it after every show? Can't you imagine how frustrating it would be?

I can. Let me tell you a brief story. REO Speedwagon consisted of Kevin Cronin, Neal Doughty, Bruce Hall, Alan Gratzer and Gary Richrath during the years of their primary success, 1977 - 1987. Alan (drums) left in 1987; Gary (guitar) in 1988. Both were briefly replaced by personnel who lasted less than a year. In 1989, Dave Amato became REO's guitarist and Bryan Hitt the drummer. This lineup in still intact today. They released two albums in the 90's, neither of which sold very well. But, they have been and continue to be a pretty big concert draw. I was able to spend some time with them backstage in 2000, and witnessed some appalling fan behavior. There were actually people than would come up to Dave and say, "I saw you guys 20 years ago ..." and Dave would say, "Well, you didn't see me." Half the time, you could tell by the blank looks that the people didn't get it. Then there were the people that wanted him and Bryan to sign old REO albums, even from as far back as the Live album from 1977. Dave would sometimes ask, "Are you sure?" It was very discouraging for them. The record companies kept issuing compilation CDs that did not include any songs from the two 90s albums, and in most cases, didn't include their photos. Finally in 2000, REO recorded another live album (the one with Styx, Arch Allies). Both were so happy to finally have a live recording that represented them. Dave said that "After 10 years I finally feel like I belong."

My point is that although John may or may not have a problem with re-releasing CITAS, it seems like a totally unnecessary exercise and something I don't think we should even ask him to deal with. From the way it sounds, the quality may not be that great on any re-release, so why not just get the VHS and make your own DVDs if you must have them. I would much rather see a DVD released of live Petra performances from John's era (1986 - the present). We know there have been taped performances; a concert in Washington DC from the Wake-Up Call tour, last years' World Pulse Festival, and SURELY someone taped their recent concert in India. Who knows what else exists.

Perhaps the best of both worlds would be to release a 2 DVD set with CITAS and newer footage. Now that, I could endorse.
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Post by Shell » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:21 pm

Greg was actually with Petra for about ten years officially, and he did some work with them before then, so he was with them for awhile. :wink: He's been gone for awhile too though.

You do make a valid point; you'd almost have to have an ego to survive in the music biz. :lol: Petheads don't give up easily though. :D Like Brent has pointed out, this sort of thing costs bucks.

Oh, and I'm sure everyone here likes you. :)
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Post by Jonathan » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:37 pm

Oh, Bridget, I like the cut of your jib.

You've got moxie.

Besides, the whole point of being here is to get people to argue, isn't it?
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Post by calicowriter » Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:52 pm

Thank you Shell, and thank you Jonathan - I think! :shock:

OK, so I am math challenged today. How about 7 albums vs 16? Yes, we old folks still love calling them "albums". :lol:

(I am including the 2 Spanish projects in that 16 because even though they were the same titles of their English counterparts, John still had to record them.)
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Post by Susannah » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:36 pm

After you hang around Jonathan long enough, you come to understand the way he thinks...so if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure that was a compliment, so yeah, thanks are in order. Sheesh, I'm starting to ramble. LOL It must be the effects of my eyeliner irritating my eyes.

Anyways, I think you made a really good point, Bridget. :D *runs and ducks to hide from diehard CITS/CITAS petitioners*
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Post by Dan » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:29 pm

Greg X Volz was officially the lead singer in mid 1980 and left in 1985.

He shared the lead singing in 1978-79 with Rob Frazier and was a guest singer on Come and Join us 1977 on the songs God gave Rock & Roll & Woman don't you know .

5 years as Lead singer is fair.

I got a tape of CUT IT AWAY by Rob Frazier he is a really good singer.

http://robfrazier.net/
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Post by Jonathan » Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:16 pm

It would be sweet to have a live Petra DVD.
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Hey!!

Post by Masada » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:46 am

Hi, Bridget!

You dont know me but Im an old lurker on this board from way way back...like when CCmusic was still hosting it (which wont mean anthing to you but some of the oldtimers on this board will remember). Anyway, just wanted to say you made a good point. I was also surprised to see another Pethead from Indianapolis. I live on the east side and am a youth pastor at a local church. Drop me a line at [email protected] and we'll talk...us Petheads have to stick together!

Peace,

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Re: Hey!!

Post by calicowriter » Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:05 am

Masada wrote:Hi, Bridget!

You dont know me but Im an old lurker on this board from way way back...like when CCmusic was still hosting it (which wont mean anthing to you but some of the oldtimers on this board will remember). Anyway, just wanted to say you made a good point. I was also surprised to see another Pethead from Indianapolis. I live on the east side and am a youth pastor at a local church. Drop me a line at [email protected] and we'll talk...us Petheads have to stick together!

Peace,

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Hi Masada, south-sider here! :) Believe it or not, I used to visit the old CCmusic board. I think I even registered and posted a couple of times, but as they say, I've slept more than a few times since then so I don't remember! I'll drop you a line.
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