someboby said to me: petra copied their songs

[adrinux]

I showed old petra's songs to a friend of mine, he is a little old(52 and after hearing the songs, he said: these songs are copied!!!
I still don't belive him...but he played the songs at same time he was hearing them.... He played the songs without knowing them.
I asked him: "How can you play it without knowing???", and then he answered me: "That is because I alrealy know these songs...they are from secular bands....
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can anyone explain me whether it is true????
I am really so much confused

[Shell]

Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about...Or he just understands the chords and could play the chords in the songs. Some of the guitar work might sound similar to secular bands he's heard, but they didn't copy their songs from anyone. They'd be in big legal trouble if that was the case, and I don't think they've had anyone complaining about copyright issues lately.

Whatever the case, I wish I had your friend's ability to pick up a guitar and play a song like that.

[charl]

There are some riffs in certain songs that are similar to other usually more famous songs...that's kind of inevitable though, as there are only so many note combinations one can play. This does not mean the entire song is copied. Also it depends on what album you were listening to-I think Beyond Belief probably does that the most-other albums no recognizable stuff stands out.

[PetraFan007]

pffft anyone who knows how to play guitar by ear (myself included) could listen to a song once and play it back after listening to it. i've done it before. he's just pulling your leg.

[Jonathan]

Yeah, the riff from "Seen and Not Heard" is similar to Kiss' "Heaven's On Fire," and "God Gave Rock and Roll To You" was done by Argent first, then Petra, then Kiss.

In the immortal words of my signature...

[adrinux]

Hey petrafan007, I know that anyone who plays an instrument can play a song after hearing it. But the question is: He did not play the songs after hearing, but he did AT THE SAME TIME, (first time).

of course the songs are not equal secular bands. but the harmony and melody are very similar.

I am talking about "washes whiter than" and "never say die".

I'd like to say that I dont belive him...and I'll always love petra and their songs

[brent]

They are just predictable, simple shallow tunes. It's as simple as that. If he can play guitar, then it will be easy to play along on those records. Music is math and time. Thats it.

[petrarocksA2]

I remember when somebody said 1 time that Pour Some Sugar on me sounded like I Am On The Rock.

[brent]

The other day, I was recording this great kid, Chris Cleveland. A bit of history. Chris likes the music that Alan (my partner) and I listen to, and what where we get our writing influences. Chris was warming up. He was playing a song on his guitar, and humming a melody line. It was almost note for note like a song that Alan had written on the fly last week. I stopped him and ask what he was playing and where he had heard it. He said that he didn't know, and thought that he was improvising. I had to stop, open up Alan's recording session files to listen to make sure that what I was hearing was the same thing. And it was.

There are only so many notes, chords progressions and resolves that make sense in rock. Most of the great ideas are just "borrowed". This is true for all kinds of music, especially rap. Rap would be nothing withour borrowing previous ideas.

[Preacherman777]

I think this is a pretty fruitless discussion without details. I'd like to hear which Petra songs he is saying were copied and from which secular songs. Then we could actually deal with the charge. Otherwise we're just kicking around unknown variables.

[charl]

This is true for all kinds of music, especially rap. Rap would be nothing withour borrowing previous ideas.

And where did rap get that from? The blues. hehe.

I don't see the similarity between I am on the Rock and Pour Some Sugar on Me. Maybe a little in the vocal melody of the chorus. I do however hear a little Purple Haze when listening to the riff at the end of Last Daze (while it's fading out). I always kind of wondered if they actually did that on purpose...

[petra4ever]

is a cover of a classic country song. One of my friends told me that, when I was watching the "Dance" video from the Wake Up Call video tape. I've asked a couple of family members and others who listen to country music if they've heard of the country song and that Petra recorded it, and at least one person had.

[charl]

The only country song I know of that has a similar line was done later and was a totally different song...who recorded it originally?

[Mountain Man]

I remember when somebody said 1 time that Pour Some Sugar on me sounded like I Am On The Rock.

I've heard that as well, but other than being bombasic arena-rock anthems, the songs are really nothing alike.

[brent]

is a cover of a classic country song. One of my friends told me that, when I was watching the "Dance" video from the Wake Up Call video tape. I've asked a couple of family members and others who listen to country music if they've heard of the country song and that Petra recorded it, and at least one person had.

No it is not a cover of a country tune. If it were, it would have been noted on the album notes. There are many songs with the same phrase. That phrase is old and has been used often. Asleep at the Wheel and probably hundreds of others have used it.