The Cult of Kerry

PetfanInCt · Post by **PetfanInCt** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:33 pm

LexingtonPethead wrote:Elo, please watch this trailer for Celcius 411.

http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/

Thanks for the link Dave.

LexingtonPethead · Post by **LexingtonPethead** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:17 pm

I'm not angry, Elo. Least of all with you. You're too nice!! Maybe even a little too nice as you are giving Michael Moron WAY to much credibility. He does not deserve it!!

You're right - not everyone sides with Bush - there are many who believe Michael Moron's propaganda - that is, there are lot of left-wing, liberal wackos out there.

To answer your question about Moron's piece of trash - no, I haven't seen it. I won't waste my time seeing it. I already know his rhetoric. I really don't have to see his movie to understand the trash talk he's putting out.

What I meant earlier with regards to Bush is that anyone who is a Christian but does not live in America will have a hard time understanding our experience of Bush as Americans. Bush has the resolve and the fortitude to be President. He understands the big picture. He has moral character. He is very qualified. But the fact he is a Christian makes it even better. He understands what made America great and is willing to defend it.

Believe me when I tell you this - except for the Amish who don't vote at all - nearly ALL evangelical Christians will be voting for Bush.

epdc · Post by **epdc** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:46 pm

for ending this discussion

you have to see the movie!!!!!!!. Look, you don`t have to be objective, at least see it with this thought (lol): "I`m gonna see it so I can be able to tell Elo that she is wrong and that INDEED, Moorï¿½ sucks and that my opinion be made in what I SAW not in what other people told me or the comments I saw on tv"."I`m gonna see it so my opinion of the movie be MY Opinion and not my friend`s opinion or the newspaper`s opinion."

You can`t say it sucks and that is a lie if you haven`t seen it :p, if you tell me "I saw it and it sucks" I`ll accept that

. I don`t think it is 100% lies, I believe it must be at least some true there. and the same with celsius, I haven`t seen it but something is sure: many stuff there is true but not all of it. Thï¿½t`s why we gotta see David!!! :p specially YOU, you are the one who is voting!! :p

hey, if you promise to see it, I`ll see Celsius

j/k, I`m gonna watch it anyways.

epdc · Post by **epdc** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:55 pm

I wrote something wrong. I put "that`s why we gotta see BOTH movies David!".

gman · Post by **gman** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:33 pm

Michael Moore's movie is not based on truth. and I think he does hate a more conservative, Christian America, which is what George Bush is trying to save.
Besides, Bush is a big fan of Petra, Michael W. Smith, and other great Christian music!!!
4 more years! Better yet, an amendment to make Bush president for life!

LexingtonPethead · Post by **LexingtonPethead** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:42 pm

That's right, G-man. BUSH IS A PETHEAD... or so I hear anyways. I think someone here who was "in the know" posted something to that effect just recently.

epdc · Post by **epdc** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:23 pm

have you seen the movie??? because if you haven`t your argument is not valid at all.

You can`t say Moore`s work is not true if you haven`t see his work.

You guys can`t base your opinion on somebody else`s opinion. You opinion here is not what you really think, you are just repeating what someone else told you that prolly didn`t see the movie either and took it from tv who obviously won`t support Moore because the TV network can`t risk their job with Bush.

So someone told you guy Bush is a pethead. Ya know, you don`t have a REAL prove of it, is just something someone said but anyways you believe it, right?Wanna know why? because is something you guys wanna believe, it is something you would like to be true.. Now, Moore is putting facts to his argument and you guys don`t believe it!!!.Why? because you wouldn`t like that truth.

I`m not saying that I don`t think Bush is a pethead, I so hope he is but here I can see that you guys are just deciding what to believe.

For the ones who hasn`t seen the movie, let me tell ya that it doesn`t appear Moore saying "Bush sucks" and that`s it, he shows you interviews, facts, documents and he even gives the sources where he got the info. ALSO, at his website he gives an statement and shows you right away from which source he got it and you can go and check it if you want.

Ya know, if he were lying, why nobody has sue him for difamation????, instead of that another movie is being made for saying that what he says is a lie. If Bush doesn`t sue him that would let me thinking that maybe there`s a little bit of truth in what he says.

I haven`t seen celcius because it hasn`t arrived to Mï¿½xico, but I`m gonna as soon as it gets here (thanks David for letting me know!)

. I believe that maybe you don`t wanna see it because you are afraid of what you might find. You gotta understand you are not betraying your candidate by watching it, you are just seeing both sides of an story, and after that, I think the decision you will make will have a more valid argument. If you still wanna vote for Bush and someone (like me HAHAHA) asks you why after what Moore said you will be able to say "yeah, I watched and saw all the stuff Moore says like this and that blablabla and ya know, since I know my candidate very well, I can say Moore is lying here and here and here so that`s why I vote for Bush" in case you get to that conclusion after watching the movie.

LexingtonPethead · Post by **LexingtonPethead** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:38 pm

Elo, Michael Moron lies. He has a liberal agenda. He is a despicable creature. He does not deserve to live in America. He is utterly deplorable.

Most of us have seen and heard his outrageous comments on TV. We don't need to see his movie to know he's just another liberal blowhard.

Being in Mexico, your perspective is different because you probably don't get all the news that we do here in America about what goes on here. I would say that we have better access to general information about Michael Moron than the rest of the world does, or at least, we're more likely to hear about it.

I can tell you there is no way I could sit still for 5 minutes watching the absurdities of FH911. I wouldn't be able to watch it. Michael Moron is a liar. Not because he says things I disagree with, but because it's true.

As for whether Bush is a Pethead, you can say what if he's not. But I say, what if he is!!

Metallinostheos · Post by **Metallinostheos** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:03 pm

Luke 6: 27-28

27 ï¿½But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you.

I think that Kerry and Moore could use more prayer and less bashing. How many here have spent time praying for their salvation?

Also, don't forget Daniel 5:21
He was fed grass like an ox, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, until he knew that the Most High God rules the kingdom of mankind and sets over it whom he will.

God will put in power, who he wants. We need to do our part, but the end result will be whoever God wants.

Shell · Post by **Shell** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:24 pm

Good point, but there's still a place to point out where they're wrong.

Hehe. I don't really know why I jumped in here, I pay enough attention to politics to know what to vote against and that's about it.

Metallinostheos · Post by **Metallinostheos** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:32 pm

I agree, Shell. But calling them Michael Mooron and wacko's is hardly valid discussion. It also doesn't show Christ to anyone.

epdc · Post by **epdc** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:06 pm

you are right, you are INSIDE of USA (I didn`t say america because mï¿½xico is also in america) so your perspective has to be different. Though not neccesarily objective....Is easier to be objective when you are OUTSIDE than INSIDE...

You just keep saying Moore is a liar and you haven`t seen his work. Is like me, I`m a writer and I would take seriously a comment of you if you would say to me "you are an awesome writer!" if you haven`t read my work. Maybe you might build your opinion in how I talk (we are friends and you think Im nice), but my personality has anything to do with my work. Also, if I have good or bad or just comments about my work has nothing to do with my work per se. You can`t also say I`m a great write just because tv or other people tells you that.

It doesn`t matter how many reviews you might read David or how many interviews you might see of Moore, if you don`t see his work, you just CAN`T HAVE AN OPINION. Because perspectives and opinions have to come from inside of you. You opinion can`t come from other people`s perspectives or from the author`s or director`s perspective of his own work.

I respect your point of view about Bush. You are in a different environment of mine, you are in a community different of mine maybe. You have your ideology and I have mine. So I understand why you think the way you think and why I think different.

I just ask you to see his work and after that, you can kick the movie straight to trash can and tell me "it sucks". If you do that, then your opinion will be YOUR opinion. Because right now you don`t have a point of view, you are just repeating like a robot what other people has said of the movie.

..FRIENDS?.....

epdc · Post by **epdc** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:22 pm

I meant "I would NOT take seriously" sigh...lol

LexingtonPethead · Post by **LexingtonPethead** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:16 pm

Metallinostheos wrote:I think that Kerry and Moore could use more prayer and less bashing. How many here have spent time praying for their salvation?

Yes... we need to pray for them, but at the same time they need to be kept out of power. No liberal should be in a position of power such as the presidency.

LexingtonPethead · Post by **LexingtonPethead** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:49 pm

Metallinostheos wrote:But calling them Michael Mooron and wacko's is hardly valid discussion.

It's valid if the shoe fits, and this one fits very well. I was actually trying to be nice.

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