Kenaniah

[CatNamedManny]

The KJV is probably one of the most flawed translations of the Bible. I'll stick to my ESV.

The KJV is the beautiful one of all translations. All others are just too contempary and at times seems to lose the true meaning to what the author is saying. I do read other translations sometimes to get it simplifed I guess you could say, but I always end up back with my KJV for its richness.

KJV is based on the Textus Receptus, which is not the most accurate Greek / Hebrew manuscript of the Bible. Why KJV feels like it's very rich is because the translators left all the matters of interpretation open. It's a literal translation of Hebrew/Greek into English, which creates quite unnatural English. Nowadays it might feel rich and deep but that could be caused by being raised with KJV.

The KJV never shows you the true meaning, because it leaves everything open to interpretation. That's because the Hebrew/Greek idioms that have been literally translated don't have a fixed meaning in English. So they created idioms in English which still don't make sense in ordinary English. E.g. holy of holies is a literal rendition of a Hebrew expression meaning simply 'most holy'. Saying 'holy of holies' instead of 'most holy' doesn't make a translation richer or deeper, it just shows that the translators don't work up to modern translation standards.

Anyway, back to TMW: I recently communicated with the guy who directed the artwork for TMW. He said the picture of the man was based on an old engraving of a man who was praying in the middle of a city. Unfortunately he didn't have access to this original engraving anymore and couldn't tell me where to find it. He has a site with more of his artwork. I can't remember the name of the site, but you might be able to find it with a Google search.

I think the KJV is considered more poetic simply because it's written in the language of 1611 and not the language of 2010. In 400 years, the language of 2010 will be arcane and people will probably consider it poetic, too. Fact is we probably wouldn't even give a second thought to the poetic nature of the KJV if it weren't for its linguistic similarity to Shakespeare, who died shortly after the KJV was published.

What's especially odd to me is the continuing use of "thee" and "thou" in churches as if they are signs of respect, when in fact at the time of their usage in the KJV, they were used to express familiarity with the newcomer "you" used as the formal address of respect. The KJV is simply a translation written in the language of its day, just like the NIV, ESV and the rest. The only difference is the modern translations are using better source material, and the translators are committed to objectivity, unlike the KJV, which was filtered through King James' preferences for affirming the Anglican Church's practices. (Prime example: interpreting the Greek word for "assembly" or "congregation" as "church").

[knotodiswrld]

All those are good points CNM, but lets try to keep it from hijacking this thread and put it in the tread where it goes:

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Edit to add: Oh, sorry Manny. I see you've done just that.

[Jonathan]

What if the pronunciation of Kenaniah is goofed?

What if it's "keh-NAN-yah?" Then we'd have problems. Bob would have to throw another syllable in on the re-write. I suggest, "yeah."

Yeah, keh-NAN-yah,
Yeah, keh-NAN-yah,
we will sing your ancient song...

[Dan]

What if the pronunciation of Kenaniah is goofed?

What if it's "keh-NAN-yah?" Then we'd have problems. Bob would have to throw another syllable in on the re-write. I suggest, "yeah."

Yeah, keh-NAN-yah,
Yeah, keh-NAN-yah,
we will sing your ancient song...

No relation to topic. Just felt you needed to see this Jonathan

[Jonathan]

Why would I want to see that? That's chess-ual innuendo.

[Dan]

I didn't realize until I read it again, that was bad taste.

[SCJ-7]

The Batman is now a BatCat!... Definitely my comentary is out of this topic...

[prem]

We named one of our sons Kenaniah. His younger sister is named Kyrie...they're the two 'song children'.

---Prem

[Jonathan]

I didn't realize until I read it again, that was bad taste.

Glad you fixed it, as I am the paragon of all that is in good taste.

Also, prem, a friend of mine was named Kenaniah...goes by Nya though. Cool huh?

[prem]

We went with the more generic 'Kenny' for his nickname.

---Prem

[sue d.]

I named my CANARY Kenaniah.... he was THE best singer I've ever owned (and I've had a lot of canaries over the past 30 years).

Only problem was: after a few years he totally stopped singing. No idea why; the breeder didn't know, and the vet had no clue. He never sang a peep once he stopped, but lived to a ripe old age of 11. Go figure.

[knotodiswrld]

I named my CANARY Kenaniah.... he was THE best singer I've ever owned ...

Except for John, of course. Right?

[separateunion]

I named my CANARY Kenaniah.... he was THE best singer I've ever owned ...

Except for John, of course. Right?

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has been forwarded to Dorla.

[executioner]

We named one of our sons Kenaniah. His younger sister is named Kyrie...they're the two 'song children'.

---Prem

We thought about naming our girl petra and our boy kenaniah but settled on.

Ezra Zion for our girl and Nazareth orian for our boy

[sue d.]

Except for John, of course. Right?

Hehehe... I don't OWN John.

Dorla might, though.... sep.union, you might want to confer with her on that while you're at it.