H2O Confirmed

[adpetrafan]

Really, there are about 2x10 to the 3rd line-ups of Petra. They specifically named the people in the lineup that is Classic Petra. This reminds me of the last mole hill like this that was made in to a mountain. It's not an incorrect statement. Unless you are looking for a fight...

[brent]

<<<Remember, Bob was ready to quit after Never Say Die

No, I don't remember. That was way before my time (christian music-wise).

I know what you're saying, but what about Slick? I've seen photos of him out & about on stage also.

But since the real original line-up (GHF) is still performing here & there (like at PC3 Indy), THEY are the original line-up, really.

I would actually put John Slick as the keyboardist for Classic Petra. But, he left before the arena shows, and he wants nothing to do with Petra or Christian music now. IMNSHO, he was a better rock/blues B3 player, and a brilliant guy. John doesn't play with the same soul that the Classic era music demanded.

[Preacherman777]

John L. is certainly the weakest link in the Classic Petra line up, but the rest of the guys are really the guys who were Petra when Petra became something that anybody knew about and since John Slick wants nothing to do with it anymore, John L. is the best fit for that role. It would be silly to put the actual original members of Petra in the line up, because they had no part in the successful years of Petra and nobody other than diehard Petra fans knows who they are.

[executioner]

I agree that most fans see this as first valuable Petra and yes I feel the same way, but I do think the press release does need to be worded different and "original" needs to be taken out. The first 8 yrs(72-80) there is a lot of good music there and I think credit needs to be put where credit is due.
The main problem I have is why can't a Christian media company(h2o) and the previous management team in their press releases just tell the truth?

[Preacherman777]

It's true. It could certainly be more accurate to reflect that reality and allow people to know there was a Petra before this Classic line up.

[brent]

Put that on the list, right behind churches, ministries and promoters paying their bills, ministries being accountable and offering full disclosure, Christians paying for music, etc, etc.

[executioner]

Put that on the list, right behind churches, ministries and promoters paying their bills, ministries being accountable and offering full disclosure, Christians paying for music, etc, etc.

I understand but in this case and the ones you listed doesn't make any of them right. I know its a revolving door and its not going to stop unless some start doing the right thing and set an example for all others, and who better than Petra to set that example.

[adpetrafan]

Sigh. There are no lies in that press release! The Classic Petra lineup is one of the original lineups - and it is the one MOST people who found Petra before John took over from Greg. There is nothing malicious here. Why try to make it bad where there isn't any?

[executioner]

Sigh. There are no lies in that press release! The Classic Petra lineup is one of the original lineups - and it is the one MOST people who found Petra before John took over from Greg. There is nothing malicious here. Why try to make it bad where there isn't any?

Sigh also. There is nothing original about it, maybe nothing malicious but come on at least have the decency to get the facts straight before its released to the public.

Is this the official original lineup of Petra? Yes or No? It's that simple.

[adpetrafan]

Sigh. There are no lies in that press release! The Classic Petra lineup is one of the original lineups - and it is the one MOST people who found Petra before John took over from Greg. There is nothing malicious here. Why try to make it bad where there isn't any?

Sigh also. There is nothing original about it, maybe nothing malicious but come on at least have the decency to get the facts straight before its released to the public.

Is this the official original lineup of Petra? Yes or No? It's that simple.

No, and it never claimed to be! That is my beef with these complaints.

Here is the part in question (after generally talking about Petra as a whole): "...and have now reunited the original lineup of Greg Volz, Bob Hartman, Mark Kelly, John Lawry, and Louie Weaver to bring their classic rock sound to people all around the world with a message of hope and healing."

I missed the part where they said they were the "first" lineup, or "official" lineup. Can you show me where that is please?

[bakersfieldpethead]

You guys are making way more of this than needs to be. Louie said several years back that most fans think of "Never Say Die" when they think of the original version of Petra. The first two albums have just been re-issued again on CD so no one is going to hide the "original" Petra from the 70s. People need to get off this kick that Petra or h2o or anyone for that fact is trying to sell lies.

In the music business things are worded in ways to be brief and straight to the point, how much air time on radio do you think DJ's have to read news releases, they are not going to waist time on the air trying to read the entire History of Petra to just let everyone know that Classic Petra is back together and touring, so the news releases are straight to the point and are worded to get the attention of the fans. This is how it has been done since the music industry first developed, there IS NO false advertisement. Let it go!!!

[brent]

Exactly. Louie has said Petra really began with him, Slick, Kelly, Hartman and Volz.

Now, to stir things up, and with all do respect to those incarnations before the NSD era, anything before NSD sucked. That is just my opinion, but it is the way I hear it. BTTS sucked too. In my mind, BTTS never happened because it was so bad, and Petra just took a break between CITAS and OF, which was a small step in the right re-direction. Flame on.

The people in the know already have relationships with the members, the band or the music. The people who have never heard of CP will not be the intended targeted buyers. So, we are really bickering on how to saw aluminum (which all you German's completely screw up, there is no extra syllable.)

[Dan]

John Slick is/was an amazing keyboard player. Given the equipment Slick had at the time, he produced some amazing sounds. Has anyone ever heard the Petra youth choir collection? that was Slick.

[Preacherman777]

To me, it's really no big deal at all. If I had written the statement, would I have worded it a little differently? Yes, but the fact that it exists as it does, doesn't bother me in the least.

[executioner]

I just think it would be best if they took "original" out of the press releases completely because it does sound like that nothing before the 81-85 lineup was official or even creditable. I know to some around here it sounds petty to you, but how would you feel being an original and founding member of a band and they discredit or dismiss your accomplishments in the band; To me and a few around here thats how it seems.