Bring Petra to YOUR city on their farewell tour!

Kirkman · Post by **Kirkman** » Sun May 22, 2005 2:25 pm

If you want to book a Petra concert during their FINAL tour, please click here:

http://www.petrarocksmyworld.com/retire_booking.html

The information on this page came straight from Scott Huie of the H2O Artist Agency.

If you aren't a promoter yourself, you can still help. Please send this link to any promoters you might know personally. Or, if you know a church that might be interested in hosting Petra, send them this link!

--Josh

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:28 pm

Josh,

Are you trying to get something together in the StL area? If so, I would be glad to help in anyway possible.

Chuck
De Soto, Mo

Tutor23 · Post by **Tutor23** » Mon May 23, 2005 10:07 pm

Anyone interested in bringing them to the Louisville, KY area? It's been a long time, and they've drawn crowds of thousands in the past.

bklockmiller · Post by **bklockmiller** » Tue May 24, 2005 11:53 pm

Does anyone know how much it will cost to bring Petra to your town for this final tour? I was just wonder what the booking agents idea of a VERY affordable is?

Kirkman · Post by **Kirkman** » Wed May 25, 2005 7:25 pm

the price was right there at the top of the article: $5500.

That's a lot lower than the $6000-8000 Huie was advertising 5 years ago.

--Josh

micah · Post by **micah** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:12 pm

I've been talking to a friend, and a bit with Scott Huie, and am seriously thinking about getting them to Ecuador in December. Am I nuts???

I wonder what the concert cost would be relative to the $5500 in the States. Scott hasn't answered that part of my question yet. Think I could do everything, including promotion, travel for the band, renting the venue and sound equipment, for a total budget of less than $20k? I'm thinking we might be able to fill a 5k to 10k seat venue for $5 per ticket. Or is that too optimistic? Certainly I need more opinions from Ecuadorians familiar with the local entertainment economy, and I have some contacts so I'll find out...

spottacus · Post by **spottacus** » Fri May 27, 2005 4:41 pm

Careful, Micah - I wouldn't like to see you put yourself deeply in debt for a last hurrah for a rock band. I know it means more than that, but if things went wrong, they could go terribly wrong.

I've contacted the Fargo Civic Center in Fargo ND and Club 3 Degrees in Minneapolis to make them aware of this opportunity. Who knows what'll happen.

Whatever happens, I'll be sure to see my guys at least one more time, even if it means a long drive and a hotel room.

Ben

micah · Post by **micah** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:11 pm

spottacus wrote:Careful, Micah - I wouldn't like to see you put yourself deeply in debt for a last hurrah for a rock band. I know it means more than that, but if things went wrong, they could go terribly wrong.

True, but if anyone comes to Christ as a result, it won't be that wrong!

I won't proceed until I talk to several people and the consensus is that it could work, with a number of people interested in helping me with the details.

Bill F · Post by **Bill F** » Sat May 28, 2005 8:14 pm

True, but if anyone comes to Christ as a result, it won't be that wrong!

Be careful about falling into the "Pragmatism" trap. Just because God produces fruit doesn't mean that God is honored by the means. Remember when Moses was told to speak to the rock and water would pour out? Instead, he got angry and struck the rock. Yet the rock still produced water and the people were satisfied. I guess you could say his ministry "flourished", yet God was dishonored and He chastised Moses for it.

I recently heard a preacher in our area justifying doubling their debt from 7 Million to 14 Million asking his congregation to consider "all the people that would got to hell because there was not a seat available for them in our sanctuary". That is a man that definitely does not know the meaning of "the end does not justify the means". Furthermore, that limits the power of the Holy Spirit to what our credit rating can buy instead of trusting God for both the means and the end.

micah · Post by **micah** » Sat May 28, 2005 10:01 pm

So how do you recommend proceding? I don't suppose you are saying NOT to do it, just to be careful, which I agree with.

I am thinking of holding an overnight prayer retreat specifically to ask God if He would bless this. If fewer than 20 people show up at that, it would be an automatic "no."

Does that sound wise to you?

ErioL · Post by **ErioL** » Sun May 29, 2005 6:17 am

micah wrote:So how do you recommend proceding? I don't suppose you are saying NOT to do it, just to be careful, which I agree with.

I am thinking of holding an overnight prayer retreat specifically to ask God if He would bless this. If fewer than 20 people show up at that, it would be an automatic "no."

Does that sound wise to you?

I wouldn't go so much by how many people show up, but by what God says at the meeting

charl · Post by **charl** » Sun May 29, 2005 10:02 am

I'm an advocate of a rather mundane approach. Pray about it, weigh your options, and if it looks reasonably doable, go for it. If it doesn't, well that's your sign from God. I don't think he'd want you to break yourself.
So if there are a good number of people at your prayer meeting who are willing to do something about this, I think that could be a good sign.

I know I'll never see Petra again-I'm completely broke. Hehe I'm living vicariously through everyone else's plans.

brent · Post by **brent** » Sun May 29, 2005 11:50 am

ErioL wrote:
micah wrote:So how do you recommend proceding? I don't suppose you are saying NOT to do it, just to be careful, which I agree with.

I am thinking of holding an overnight prayer retreat specifically to ask God if He would bless this. If fewer than 20 people show up at that, it would be an automatic "no."

Does that sound wise to you?
I wouldn't go so much by how many people show up, but by what God says at the meeting

I do not wish to offend anyone, or by any means say a cross word about God the Father, Son and holy Spirit. But concerts, where tickets are sold, has little to do about God, and more to do with economics. I can guarantee to that the average concert goer does not pray about what concerts to go to, or how much he should pay over and above his ticket price. It is supply and demand. A 100 year old man can preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Will that draw a crowd of music lovers? Not likely. It is not the message that people are paying to see. It is the carnal things that people, Christian or not, pay to see. If this were not true, then bands like Petra would live forever, regardless of musical style, their age, etc.

That said, I personally view Petra as a good investment for a foreign market that loves the band, loves the music, etc. I would not see them as an instant draw. They are not a big draw anymore in the states.

Re: 10 to 15k seats. I would budget my expenses on 2k people showing up. If you can cover your expenses with 2k people attending, then go for it. Plan for the worst, and hope that reality is much better.

micah · Post by **micah** » Sun May 29, 2005 2:11 pm

Erio, the minimum number at the prayer retreat is because I cannot do this without a lot of support from others. If I can't get a reasonable minimum to commit to something like that, how can I expect them to do everything else that will be required?

I also agree that it is a somewhat economic decision, unfortunately. I also agree that people pay for the music, what they want. But it is a tool for getting the Gospel to some people who might otherwise not hear it clearly presented. Heck, if they pay to hear the Gospel, so much the better!

Anyway, I just talked to a young adult pastor at a local large church, and his first impression was that it would work. I'm not satisfied with that yet, though.

spottacus · Post by **spottacus** » Mon May 30, 2005 9:17 am

I'll be talking to the youth pastor at my church. It's affiliated with another, much larger church in town. Between them they probably have 1000 members and 2500 regular attenders. Then they're networked with another 10 or so churches in town that have youth programs.

But I'm concerned that Petra will be a difficult sell to a youth group.

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