Who would you like to see perform with John Schlitt?

petrafreak2009 · Post by **petrafreak2009** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:30 am

If your choice is not listed, give it to us and tell us why, even if it is listed. I would like to see him with Michael Sweet, the two best voices in Christian Rock.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:09 pm

Whoa whoa whoa...Have you made sure all those people you listed believe the same as John?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:45 am

Sandi Patti, ha ha, ha ha ha ha .....

p-freak · Post by **p-freak** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:09 am

I would say Bob Hartman, Greg Bailey and Paul Simmons, but I hear that this is never gonna be an option anymore...

gman · Post by **gman** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:08 am

I would like to see John get together with Geoff Moore for a couple shows. With where they are both at musically, I think it would be a good fit.

GMan

separateunion · Post by **separateunion** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:50 am

Honestly, I'm not really interested in seeing John in concert, especially without a band backing him. I'm not really into seeing solo artists with backing tracks.

trodLAN · Post by **trodLAN** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:41 am

Honestly, I'm very, very interested in seeing John in concert!

separateunion · Post by **separateunion** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:06 pm

For the price I could pay to see John, I could see a full live band. I went to an Underoath concert a month ago that only cost me $18. Granted, I paid $50 to see Smashing Pumpkins, but most of the concerts around here are $20 or less and you get 2-3 bands.

sue d. · Post by **sue d.** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:02 pm

Why is it that people will go see an instrumentalist that can't sing, but won't see a singer that can't play?

Is the voice any less of an instrument??

John's concerts don't charge out at $20... they're usually $10 or less depending on locale.

You can see a few bands for $20... but I'll guarantee you won't be seeing 4-time Grammy winners for that price.

Yes, backing bands are better than tracks, but in lieu of that I'll take a great singer over a mediocre band any day. Just my personal preference.

St_Augustines_Pears · Post by **St_Augustines_Pears** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:08 pm

separateunion wrote:Honestly, I'm not really interested in seeing John in concert, especially without a band backing him. I'm not really into seeing solo artists with backing tracks.

Then I guess you're not into seeing a lot of southern gospel groups singing then, either.

A few weeks ago, I saw the Blackwood Brothers in concert at a local church. They sang live, but used backing tracks. Didn't matter...they were awesome!

I would travel anywhere in Iowa to see John Schlitt in concert, whether he's with a full band or using backing tracks. Heck, I would pay good money just to see and hear John read out of the phone book!

"Starting with the A's..."

separateunion · Post by **separateunion** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:45 am

sue d. wrote:Why is it that people will go see an instrumentalist that can't sing, but won't see a singer that can't play?

Is the voice any less of an instrument??

Honestly? In my opinion, it takes a lot more to become a great guitar player than it does to become a great singer. That actually goes for any instrument. It takes hard work to become simply proficient playing an instrument while singing is more of a natural gift. There are plenty of great singers out there with no vocal training whatsoever. I doubt you'd ever be able to find someone who could pick up a guitar and just start playing.

You can see a few bands for $20... but I'll guarantee you won't be seeing 4-time Grammy winners for that price.

That is a very misleading statement. First of all, John is not a Grammy winner, Petra is. Secondly, awards don't necessarily equal talent. Third, Petra won those four Grammys in a very weak category. Do you think that any mainstream artist would take a Grammy Award winner for any Chrisitan category seriously?

Yes, backing bands are better than tracks, but in lieu of that I'll take a great singer over a mediocre band any day. Just my personal preference.

I'll save my money for great bands. I'm not saying I shell out $20 for any band that comes along.

petrafreak2009 · Post by **petrafreak2009** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:10 am

If that's how you feel about Christian music, specifically about Petra and John, then why be a MOD on a PETRA fan site? Go somewhere where your tastes are appeased and leave the peacekeeping for the TRUE fan. You've targeted me several times about talking about bands with connections to Petra, but you're telling me you can shell John, with the connection to Petra only less than Bob Hartman, and get away with it?

separateunion · Post by **separateunion** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:02 am

I became a mod several years ago when this site was first established. I volunteered because Micah was asking for mods and no one wanted to do it. As far as I know, I am currently the only active mod and those with Site Admin powers are hard to get ahold of and are rarely here, so if you want to get technical, I am the only peace keeper. If you want to be a mod, no one is stopping you from requesting mod powers, but good luck getting anyone to respond.

I didn't realize a requirement of being a mod was to be a koolaid drinker for the band. I am a Petra fan, but I am also objective enough to realize that they had their time, it passed and there is much better music to be found these days. I also tire of the attitude on this board that Petra is a sacred cow and we should never bring any criticism towards the band. Some people need to realize that they are just a band and they aren't the second coming of Christ.

Show me where I said anything negative about Christian music? I didn't, so stop putting words in my mouth. I tend to agree with brent's sentiments about the industry and such, but I don't hate Christian music. I think a majority of the Christian music that is marketed is mediocre at best, which is sad. Luckily, many of the better Christian artists out there (Switchfoot, Relient K, Jars of Clay, etc.) see that the end of CMI (Christian Music Industry) is drawing near, and they are moving to mainstream labels or going independent.

Schlittism33 · Post by **Schlittism33** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:47 pm

I don't pop up here very often to disagree.. but..

About the comments suggesting that there is no work involved in being a good singer - that it is more of a natural gift. I can see how people think that.. but I have to disagree.

I believe that a person can be gifted with a good VOICE.. but just having a nice voice doesnt make you a good singer by any means.

I play guitar and sing.. I'm not great and certainly not half the singer John is, nor am I half the player that Bob is... BUT I will say that I look at the voice as being an instrument JUST as much as I do the guitar.. and I believe the voice to be the hardest instrument to figure out... atleast when aiming to use it properly..

Just like there are scales, chords, lead patterns, etc.. with the guitar.. There is proper breathing, voice trasition through registers, Chest voice, Head Voice, Mixed Voice, Tone... for singing. There are SEVERAL things to work on for singing..

Can some people sing good naturally? Sure.. but WORKING and TAKING CARE of your voice is key to anyone wishing to better themselves... Listen to John in bootlegs of Head East or early Petra bootlegs... does he sound good? Yes. Is he a good singer? Yes. But when I listen to those recordings and then watch something like Petra Alive 2000... Johns vocals live became just as good (and sometimes BETTER) than studio recordings. Showing that kind of improvement... especially into your older years.. requires work, skill. and good TECHNIQUE that is learned and developed. and to say something else for singers... it takes ALOT more work for them to keep their instrument sounding good into their older years... especially when you have toured as much as John Schlitt has! Singers dont just switch on an amplifier and dial in the tone.. not saying that its super easy for guitar players to keep all their chops.. but I am saying its harder for a singer.

You can bet that John has put as much work into his voice as Bob has the guitar... The main thing to do - to further your knowledge of playing or singing isnt all about getting "lessons" .. its just doing it! Play, play, play.. or Sing, sing, sing!

I don't speak out about this to start an arguement.. nor do I think I'm a genius of guitar or singing... but I do know that there is a lot more to it than opening your mouth and yelling!

-Stephen

separateunion · Post by **separateunion** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:05 pm

I realize that you can mold your voice through vocal training. My point wasn't that there is never any skill involved other than what you're gifted with, just that it's harder to be good at playing an instrument than it is to be a good vocalist.

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