This thread cannot be ignored!!!

PetraFan007 · Post by **PetraFan007** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:42 pm

Alright, I know you are all sick and tired of hearing this, but there has GOT to be someone out there that either has the audio or video recording of this. As someone said, it would be a travesty if this concert went unrecorded. Oh, and don't roll your eyes at me and look at me like I have 2 heads, there is no exuse if this concert isn't recorded. So whoever has it, COUGH IT UP!!!

Peter_B · Post by **Peter_B** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:40 pm

Yes, please, please, please! Wait, I don't want to sound like I'm begging, but.... okay, I'm begging, please tell me there is something out there!

Corval · Post by **Corval** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:57 pm

WE need to have a video clip as alive 2000 in Sue's site

Artur

Mountain Man · Post by **Mountain Man** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:31 pm

GIVE US A RECORDING OF THIS SHOW!

Please.

wallytheman · Post by **wallytheman** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:12 am

if someone did record it. it is considered a bootleg and is in violation of copyright law. so even if someone did record it i don't think it would come out unless it was authorized by the band, management , and record label.

sue d. · Post by **sue d.** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:59 am

well, this is true.... that's the beauty/ugliness of the internet (depending on how you want to look at it).

PetraFan007 · Post by **PetraFan007** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:40 pm

if someone did record it. it is considered a bootleg and is in violation of copyright law. so even if someone did record it i don't think it would come out unless it was authorized by the band, management , and record label.

at this point, I couldn't care less, really. The value of this concert is worth much more than anything the "RIAA" (really irritating audio appropriaters) might put on it. And ANYONE in this forum (unless they are afraid of being sought out by someone who may frown upon them for saying so) WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THIS!

PetraFan007 · Post by **PetraFan007** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:15 pm

I guess what I had to say just 100% turned people off. Oh well. I feel no remorse. I meant what I said.

Shell · Post by **Shell** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:50 am

Maybe no one taped it, Jay.

PetfanInCt · Post by **PetfanInCt** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:32 pm

PetraFan007 wrote:
if someone did record it. it is considered a bootleg and is in violation of copyright law. so even if someone did record it i don't think it would come out unless it was authorized by the band, management , and record label.
at this point, I couldn't care less, really. The value of this concert is worth much more than anything the "RIAA" (really irritating audio appropriaters) might put on it. And ANYONE in this forum (unless they are afraid of being sought out by someone who may frown upon them for saying so) WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THIS!

I agree

BigD · Post by **BigD** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:50 pm

I'm going to have to disagree here. The concert was a one in a lifetime experience for those who attended; passing around bootleged recording just because we don't care about copyright law cheapens it for everyone else.

PetfanInCt · Post by **PetfanInCt** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:41 pm

PetraFan007 wrote:
if someone did record it. it is considered a bootleg and is in violation of copyright law. so even if someone did record it i don't think it would come out unless it was authorized by the band, management , and record label.
at this point, I couldn't care less, really. The value of this concert is worth much more than anything the "RIAA" (really irritating audio appropriaters) might put on it. And ANYONE in this forum (unless they are afraid of being sought out by someone who may frown upon them for saying so) WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THIS!

I myself am not a big fan of the RIAA. The music industry I read was around a 34 billion dollar a year industry. The RIAA was complaining not to long ago that they lthe industry lost about a billion bucks due to downloading of music. I found this laughable. Considering the crappy music that the mainstream industry puts out, will all of its sexual immorality, drugs influence, and allcohol the music isnt worth the cd its put on. The RIAA should be more concerned with the quality of the music rather then the downloading. Maybe if it werent such garbage people would buy it. They still have they're 33 billion.

Then you have some artists moaning and groaning about kazaa, and other file sharing programs saying hey I dont want my music downloaded.. I need my money. However they're complaining from the living room of they're mansion and the jag and beamer are in the driveway please..

The downloading doesnt matter...Its all about greed. They end up making the money anyway.

Shell · Post by **Shell** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:39 pm

You make some valid points, amigo. I agree there is an element of greed and they would do well to focus on cleaning up the stuff that's out there. It's pretty common for a big industry to scream bloody murder if they're being hit in the pocketbook. I've often wondered why it's available on the Internet in the first place if downloading it is such a problem. But that doesn't change the fact it's illegal. Is it really worth it to break the law to prove a point and maybe have them go after you? There are websites where you can download music you want legally and pay for what you download, that's a better alternative than breaking the law.

PetfanInCt · Post by **PetfanInCt** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:18 pm

Shell wrote:You make some valid points, amigo. I agree there is an element of greed and they would do well to focus on cleaning up the stuff that's out there. It's pretty common for a big industry to scream bloody murder if they're being hit in the pocketbook. I've often wondered why it's available on the Internet in the first place if downloading it is such a problem. But that doesn't change the fact it's illegal. Is it really worth it to break the law to prove a point and maybe have them go after you? There are websites where you can download music you want legally and pay for what you download, that's a better alternative than breaking the law.

I think mp3s have helped the Christian music industry. Access to Christian music is sure not like it is for the main stream market. There are no regular Christian music radio stations in my state. I wouldnt have known about some of my favorite artists if it wasnt for the listening of mp3s. I downloaded a whole album one time and then bought the album.
I'm on disability I dont have much income. I'm in the lower income brackets. I've emailed a Christian rock band a well known popular rock band. I asked them if they would allow me to download mp3's of thier music. One of the band members emailed me back and said, "If it was up to him he said it would be ok with him because to him his band was part of a ministry". He said . "however it isnt up to him its up to the label. It stinks that records labels seem to think they own the lives of the artists and own the talent when the talent is Gods.

Someone threw out a thought that made me think. As far as the Christian music industry is concerned. All the music is for Jesus and his Glory so the music belongs to God who are we to put a price tag on it. If the artist do Gods will through there talent, talent they received from God, God will see to it that they are taken care of. Jesus is in control of everything he will take care of the artists and there needs as he sees fit.

In Christ

Shell · Post by **Shell** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:18 pm

There's typical corporate mentality for you, and unfortunately it exists within Christian companies too. I am glad the artist you e-mailed said if it was up to him he wouldn't care about downloading, but many times it is the record company's call, and they will usually have things set up for their benefit before anyone else's. A contract with a record company is legally binding, and the artist has to make some effort to comply with the terms of the contract or they could be in trouble. It can be a challenge for an artist to keep his/her integrity and have a recording contract too, it can be tricky to find that balance.

The almighty dollar has a way of messing things up.

Maybe the Indie artists should start an insurrection or mutiny or whatever the heck you call it.

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