ClassicPetra.Com In Transition

[brent]

So far no response at all. Just what Petra needs, yet another manager who is not on the ball. I think we got spoiled with Michael.

This may be a little harsh and undeserved. Managers can only do what the artist and the market allows them to do. We don't know the actual responsibilities of the manager. I can tell you that it is not common to even hear a peep from a manager of a major artist. Managers generally interact with buyers and industry people. The successful manager with multiple artists and productions has better things to do than cater to the few nosy fans. Just sayin'.

I don't want to say "Get a life", but come on. Give them sometime to take care of business and then choose to go see a show or buy a download when the music is out.

[Shell]

How did we ever survive in the days before websites, message boards, blogs and e-mail?

Seriously, I could manage fine without cable, I could probably even do okay without my cellphone although it has been handy a few times when my car has broken down...but I do not know what I would do without my computer...Part of the reason being I need it to work.

[Jan]

I don't want to say "Get a life", but come on. Give them sometime to take care of business and then choose to go see a show or buy a download when the music is out.

That was a little harsh and undeserved.

[Shell]

No, it wasn't. Really, what did people do before the days of the Internet? They just went to shows (hopefully they made sure ahead of time the show was still happening) and bought music as it was released. They didn't demand information from managers and probably wouldn't have been able to get hold of them if they did.

Maybe if we give them some time to iron out whatever they might need to iron out and make their plans they will have something to tell us eventually.

I did note the wink by the way. Just thought I'd express my opinion.

[Preacherman777]

Well, I did say that perhaps we were spoiled with Michael who was very good about responding to fans, so it's not like I was completely inconsiderate.

[executioner]

Well, I did say that perhaps we were spoiled with Michael who was very good about responding to fans, so it's not like I was completely inconsiderate.

You said how you felt and I think that is best. I will tell you in this day and age I think the artists especially the ones looking for their market and fighting daily for any press should make themselves more accessiable for the fans via internet, emails, blogs, FB, and Twitter. I think if CP really wants this to work this is going to be the only feasable way to get this off the ground. There are alot of secular artists like Def Leppard, Journey and a host of others that have gone this route to keep their name out there and in the consumers thoughts.

For instance last year we bought Def Leppard tickets (which were only $21 I might add) and there is this song off of Leppard's Slang album that is really unknown by most fans, but it is truly loved by my wife; On DL's Site my wife found an email that goes directly to their management and she requested this song for the Dallas show and she left her info including Twitter and sometime the next day Joe Elliott is tweeting my wife letting her know that they will make sure that song is on the set list for the Dallas show, and yes they played the song "Blood Runs Cold" I believe that to be the title.
Joe or any other artist for that matter doesn't have to do that but you know what it didn't hurt and it put their name and showed by however many followers Joe has that the fans come first.
Now CP doesn't have to get exactly like this, but you know what it won't hurt them but only help. This is a different age and market then it was 20-25 years ago and an artists has to use any means possible to keep their music in the consumer thoughts; If CP chooses not to do anything of this nature and make themselves more attainable to its fan base than I truly believe it is basically over and its time to give it up and find something else for them to do.

[Shell]

I do understand the concept of being accessible to fans. However, if they spent all their time trying to please and/or keep their fans updated on everything they're doing, they would never get anything else done, such as planning a concert schedule or getting a CD released which in turn would give fans something else to complain about. I'm not pinpointing anyone in particular; complaining people aren't uncommon for bands (or anyone else who communicates with large groups of people through blogs, message boards or websites for that matter). It is impossible to please everyone, and that is no matter who you are. There will always be someone who doesn't approve, doesn't get it or simply isn't satisfied.

[executioner]

I understand what your saying also, but I feel CP is not using all the tools available to get the word out; in order to make it they have to go where the market is and the market especially the entertainment side are social media driven.

[Jan]

Well, I did say that perhaps we were spoiled with Michael who was very good about responding to fans, so it's not like I was completely inconsiderate.

You said how you felt and I think that is best. I will tell you in this day and age I think the artists especially the ones looking for their market and fighting daily for any press should make themselves more accessiable for the fans via internet, emails, blogs, FB, and Twitter. I think if CP really wants this to work this is going to be the only feasable way to get this off the ground. There are alot of secular artists like Def Leppard, Journey and a host of others that have gone this route to keep their name out there and in the consumers thoughts.

For instance last year we bought Def Leppard tickets (which were only $21 I might add) and there is this song off of Leppard's Slang album that is really unknown by most fans, but it is truly loved by my wife; On DL's Site my wife found an email that goes directly to their management and she requested this song for the Dallas show and she left her info including Twitter and sometime the next day Joe Elliott is tweeting my wife letting her know that they will make sure that song is on the set list for the Dallas show, and yes they played the song "Blood Runs Cold" I believe that to be the title.
Joe or any other artist for that matter doesn't have to do that but you know what it didn't hurt and it put their name and showed by however many followers Joe has that the fans come first.
Now CP doesn't have to get exactly like this, but you know what it won't hurt them but only help. This is a different age and market then it was 20-25 years ago and an artists has to use any means possible to keep their music in the consumer thoughts; If CP chooses not to do anything of this nature and make themselves more attainable to its fan base than I truly believe it is basically over and its time to give it up and find something else for them to do.

Exactly! Perfect example.

[bakersfieldpethead]

ClassicPetra.com is not the only one down. I guess Petraband.com got hacked, a virus keeps trying to load on my computer everytime I go to that website. Not that it matters it hasn't been updated with anything in years. You would have thought that it would have at least been updated with the festivals Petra was doing with John.

[Preacherman777]

I seem to recall trying to go there quite a while ago and having a virus try to load. I don't think anyone is having anything to do with it anymore other than hackers. I think it's just sitting out there dead in cyber space getting toyed with. Someone should probably take it down or else reclaim it and redo it.

[bakersfieldpethead]

Since Petra's days at Word Records to today, Petra has now had 3 or 4 Official Websites. Bob needs to get Petraband.com and make it apart of what they are doing. Just one main website for all things Petra, by Petra!!!

[executioner]

[quote="bakersfieldpethead"]Since Petra's days at Word Records to today, Petra has now had 3 or 4 Official Websites. Bob needs to get Petraband.com and make it apart of what they are doing. Just one main website for all things Petra, by Petra!!![/quote

EXACTLY!

[Shell]

I get what you mean, but the problem with that is that he likely doesn't has a lot of time to devote to a website. It's more than he could probably keep up with himself. Possible solution: Get some people he trusts to help him out with that and work with them on keeping it updated. There are a number of ways to go about that, and I may be making it sound simpler than it might be, but it's always better when the band is involved in some way and has some input as far as their website. It's easier to keep more streamlined and current that way.

John has a very good team to get his information out...and he's computer phobic.

[brent]

I would like to address some comments.

First of all, Petra is not on tour, therefore they are playing one-offs. They would have to play a bunch of shows in front of allot of people to get ticket prices down to $21. Def Leppard is not selling tickets for that little amount everywhere. They were here in KC with Heart and the cheapest tickets on the floor were over $130 ea, and the least expensive on the third tier of the Sprint Center were $65. The place seats around 16k people IIRC. The size of show and co-headliners make a difference.

Second, it does not take long for a webmaster to update the site. Bob could find people to do that. There could be a million reasons why it is not updated. I cannot believe people even care about that site, since that band is not actively recording, touring, etc. There have always been better and more relevant sites by fans. There is more info out there by third parties now for sure. Why re-invent the wheel? They can funnel news through Sue and she can cover more people by posting on this site than on petraband.com. They can post news in key places (although I do not know why they do not) that are repeated around the world within a week. I suppose if Bob gets hit with enough emails, he will update the site, post links to and from the CP site, and ask some of the stud site guys around here to help with content. Until then, we can assume he does not feel it necessary.